WildCard Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: Go to just before the 29 minute mark to hear Eichel stuff (ignore the 29:45 mark mentioned in the description - it’s wrong oddly). Or just read my notes! - Florida tried getting Eichel before moving to Reinhart. Nothing came close. - Montreal tried on Eichel on Friday but it’s unclear where things stand. - Minnesota does not appear to be in on Eichel right now because they’re not willing to pay the price. - The Rangers have apparently said Schneider and Nils Lundqvist are untouchable. (My note: stop talking to the Rangers, that’s ridiculous) - Calgary is involved and keeps circling back to see if they can find a match. - Seattle is not involved. - They both agree Seth Jones trade helped the Sabres. Why did the Seth Jones trade help the Sabres?
triumph_communes Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Unfortunately that's how the owner thinks, according to Vogl's source. Sad. Very old thinking. Is anyone surprised? Owner wasn’t in the room for the draft for once. Maybe KA actually has him in the reigns finally. 1
Hoss Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, WildCard said: Why did the Seth Jones trade help us with Eichel? They don’t really get much into it but say people around the league think Jones getting such a strong return should help the Sabres stand firm on their price. 1
Buffalonill Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hoss said: Go to just before the 29 minute mark to hear Eichel stuff (ignore the 29:45 mark mentioned in the description - it’s wrong oddly). Or just read my notes! - Florida tried getting Eichel before moving to Reinhart. Nothing came close. - Montreal tried on Eichel on Friday but it’s unclear where things stand. - Minnesota does not appear to be in on Eichel right now because they’re not willing to pay the price. - The Rangers have apparently said Schneider and Nils Lundqvist are untouchable. (My note: stop talking to the Rangers, that’s ridiculous) - Calgary is involved and keeps circling back to see if they can find a match. - Seattle is not involved. - They both agree Seth Jones trade helped the Sabres. Chris Drury Is delusional like his fan base Edited July 25, 2021 by Buffalonill 1
Randall Flagg Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: KA outright said he spent all day Friday talking with Montreal about Eichel trade. I find the comment about K funny as the stats junkies like Jame thought he was the best player from his draft from the get go. Now he’s a bust? Never can please anyone. I won’t be sad seeing Eichel on a team like Montreal. He will demand all the minutes and bring them down. Lol, he will not "demand all the minutes" 1
triumph_communes Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Chris Drury Is delusional like his fan base Or Chris Drury is savvy and is doing a favor to other GMs by lowballing left and right. It’s a cut throat game.
apuszczalowski Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: Owner wasn’t in the room for the draft for once. Maybe KA actually has him in the reigns finally. Weren't they? I thought there were photos of them 'In the War Room' that the team posted prior to the draft?
triumph_communes Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, Randall Flagg said: Lol, he will not "demand all the minutes" He literally refuses to go on the bench for entire 2 minute PPs. When he gets cold the entire team doesn’t score a PP goal as a result. He’s a talent, but not a teammate
Buffalonill Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Weren't they? I thought there were photos of them 'In the War Room' that the team posted prior to the draft? Aren't they at the Olympics ?
triumph_communes Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: Weren't they? I thought there were photos of them 'In the War Room' that the team posted prior to the draft? The live feeds showed him not at the front row seat next to the GM like he has been for every year prior. Just now, Buffalonill said: Aren't they at the Olympics ? Oh well that would make sense and undermine the argument if true, sure. 1
LGR4GM Posted July 25, 2021 Author Report Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: Or Chris Drury is savvy and is doing a favor to other GMs by lowballing left and right. It’s a cut throat game. Very savvy to low ball an Eichel trade where 4-5 other teams can easily out bid you. Edited July 25, 2021 by LGR4GM 2
Marvin Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Aren't they at the Olympics ? They had better be. Their daughter is playing. Having said that, it's not like he doesn't have the money to fly back and forth.
apuszczalowski Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Chris Drury Is delusional like his fan base Its not that he is delusional, he's doing what Good GMs do. He's trying to improve his team without having to give up everything. Its just as delusional as some of the prices being posted about what KA wants for Eichel. Lets not pretend that the Sabres had no intentions of trading Jack and its just other teams coming up and offering deals to try and get him. He is on the market and other teams know that he wants out. They won't come out and give their best offer with their best assets for someone they know isn't happy and wants to be moved. Just like KA isn't going to just take the first offer given to him or say what his true bottom line is in a deal for him.
SabresVet Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 4 hours ago, nucci said: Forces ROR trade and now limits Eichel trade. #pegulaville Difference this time is they're budgeting less for player salaries. The team struggling means less in revenue and the brilliant Pegula's compensate by reducing payroll. It's a vicious cycle going on right now. 3 hours ago, PASabreFan said: HE'S THE OWNER!!!!! Where's the evidence he makes KA do stuff? He's just expressing his opinion. Kev can do what he wants. Owners don't get over-ruled. If you want to keep working for them, either do what they tell them or have the persuasive skills to mollify them when you do different than their desires.
apuszczalowski Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Aren't they at the Olympics ? Theres no spectators there and only the athletes are permitted to attend because of something we aren't allowed to mention or discuss here that turned the world upside down for the last 18+ months.....
sabresparaavida Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Hoss said: This is the most obvious ***** in the world. Take on the salary to make this happen and move on. You can flip the salary players for something later but at the end of the day when you trade Jack you’re going to need to add players to get to the cap floor anyways. Get this done, take Rask and Dumba. The Leafs/Sabres rumor comes from a tweet from John Buccigross just saying it SHOULD happen, right? 6 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: Source? No, this is coming from a friend who works for the Sabres. 1
apuszczalowski Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: They had better be. Their daughter is playing. Having said that, it's not like he doesn't have the money to fly back and forth. They can't attend the Olympics, no one can except the athletes 1
apuszczalowski Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Very savvy to low ball an Eichel trade where 4-5 other teams can easily out bid you. You start out with a lowball offer and then work your way up. if others try and outbid you. Do you go into an auction and just shout out a huge bid right away just because there are a couple of people bidding on the item too?
Buffalonill Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 1 minute ago, apuszczalowski said: Its not that he is delusional, he's doing what Good GMs do. He's trying to improve his team without having to give up everything. Its just as delusional as some of the prices being posted about what KA wants for Eichel. Lets not pretend that the Sabres had no intentions of trading Jack and its just other teams coming up and offering deals to try and get him. He is on the market and other teams know that he wants out. They won't come out and give their best offer with their best assets for someone they know isn't happy and wants to be moved. Just like KA isn't going to just take the first offer given to him or say what his true bottom line is in a deal for him. His Untouchables list Lafreniere, Kakko, Miller,Lundkvist, schneider Block his number 2
triumph_communes Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Very savvy to low ball an Eichel trade where 4-5 other teams can easily out bid you. Maybe he doesn’t want to win. Maybe he wants to feed the local media and do other GMs favors.
LGR4GM Posted July 25, 2021 Author Report Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: You start out with a lowball offer and then work your way up. if others try and outbid you. Do you go into an auction and just shout out a huge bid right away just because there are a couple of people bidding on the item too? That's not how this works, It's not an auction. At this point the Rangers list of untouchables is every player under 22. Rangers aren't serious about Eichel if Brandon Schnieder is on the can't have list. Drury comes off as an unrealistic cheapskate Edited July 25, 2021 by LGR4GM 2
WildCard Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 10 hours ago, sabresparaavida said: Apparently, there was a deal involving three as the centerpiece that fell through. Also, one Leafs vs Sabres game likely to be an outdoor game this year. Involving three? As in, pieces?
sabresparaavida Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 Just now, WildCard said: Involving three? As in, pieces? Sorry meant 3OA, should have been more clear 1
Randall Flagg Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, triumph_communes said: He literally refuses to go on the bench for entire 2 minute PPs. When he gets cold the entire team doesn’t score a PP goal as a result. He’s a talent, but not a teammate Coaches choose to do this, I've seen ovechkin, Crosby, draisaitl, McDavid do it countless times. Do you have evidence he does this against coaches wishes, and that he will demand ice time? He is going to be shoveled ice time by whoever his coach is 2
apuszczalowski Posted July 25, 2021 Report Posted July 25, 2021 Terry Facetiming with powers from Tokyo? Terry & Kim sitting in the Sabres Box at the Tokyo Tennis Venue? 2
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