Zamboni Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 So, is he in the WNY area? I figured he’d be in Boston with family. Unless that was taken several days ago and posted yesterday.
SwampD Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) On 7/4/2021 at 1:36 PM, Zamboni said: So, is he in the WNY area? I figured he’d be in Boston with family. Unless that was taken several days ago and posted yesterday. Expand It says Silver Creek and that’s water behind him. Edited July 4, 2021 by SwampD
Ogelthorpe Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 1:43 PM, SwampD said: It says Silver Creek and that’s water behind him. Expand It's Sunset Bay, Hanford Bay area. 1
Hoss Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) On 7/4/2021 at 12:52 PM, LGR4GM said: This just isn't true and I'm just tired of hearing it spoken like gospel. Expand It is most definitely true but it’s generally true for most free agents aside from a select few organizations. Edited July 4, 2021 by Hoss 1
Stoner Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 4:46 AM, Andrew Amerk said: No one wants to come here, unless there’s an overpayment. Expand They want to come here for professional reasons; they don't want to be here. 1
thewookie1 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 4:11 PM, Brawndo said: Expand Not exactly sure how to process that one, are they going to offer Byram and Newhook plus or something?
klos1963 Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 3:07 AM, LGR4GM said: K, I don't agree with you. The entire no one wants to be here thing is just overplayed. Expand If you did a survey of all players asking where they would play if they could choose , in order, how many wouldn't rank Buffalo at the bottom or the bottom, say 3? 1
Hoss Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 4:11 PM, Brawndo said: Expand Wookie already mentioned it but Newhook and Byram are their two realistic pieces that make a lot of sense. Because their first is very low they would have to add more in rostered players or high-level prospects. I just don’t see how they afford Eichel, Rantanen, Landeskog, MacKinnon, a new Makar deal and a new Grubauer deal.
Brawndo Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 I imagine Kadri would be coming this way to move salary. 2
tom webster Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 4:38 PM, Hoss said: Wookie already mentioned it but Newhook and Byram are their two realistic pieces that make a lot of sense. Because their first is very low they would have to add more in rostered players or high-level prospects. I just don’t see how they afford Eichel, Rantanen, Landeskog, MacKinnon, a new Makar deal and a new Grubauer deal. Expand The last paragraph says it all. Can’t see how they could afford it unless they believe cap is going to explode a year or two earlier then most people think.
inkman Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 4:43 PM, Brawndo said: I imagine Kadri would be coming this way to move salary. Expand
Curt Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 4:59 PM, tom webster said: The last paragraph says it all. Can’t see how they could afford it unless they believe cap is going to explode a year or two earlier then most people think. Expand It would need to be a deal with some salary coming back. If Tampa can assemble a roster with Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Cirelli, Hedman, Sergachev, Vasilevsky....... then I don’t see why it’s impossible for Colorado to keep MacKinnon, Eichel, Rantanen, Landeskog, Makar, Girard, Grubauer.
Flashsabre Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 4:38 PM, Hoss said: Wookie already mentioned it but Newhook and Byram are their two realistic pieces that make a lot of sense. Because their first is very low they would have to add more in rostered players or high-level prospects. I just don’t see how they afford Eichel, Rantanen, Landeskog, MacKinnon, a new Makar deal and a new Grubauer deal. Expand They hired Tampa’s cap strategists.😜
Thorner Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 5:11 PM, Curt said: It would need to be a deal with some salary coming back. If Tampa can assemble a roster with Kucherov, Point, Stamkos, Cirelli, Hedman, Sergachev, Vasilevsky....... then I don’t see why it’s impossible for Colorado to keep MacKinnon, Eichel, Rantanen, Landeskog, Makar, Girard, Grubauer. Expand What a GD roster that would be. It's hockey/entertainment for jeepers sake - If I'm an Avs fan I would be off-the-walls stoked if we could trot all those guys out there. Hell, they may even "Kucherov" Eichel one day and he comes back and dominates in the playoffs.
Flashsabre Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 https://mobile.twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1411045894716276743?s=20&fbclid=IwAR1UyzLrliPFNNNx5EWg-uPzB42ToGzAryCo0PwlxCK5517X9gccurm_W5U Jack’s neck once a trade is announced.🤣 1
Flashsabre Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 If Colorado has really thrown their hat in the ring then that is great news for Buffalo. The more suitors out west, all not wanting their competitors to get Jack, the better. 3
nfreeman Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 4:43 PM, Brawndo said: I imagine Kadri would be coming this way to move salary. Expand On 7/4/2021 at 4:59 PM, tom webster said: The last paragraph says it all. Can’t see how they could afford it unless they believe cap is going to explode a year or two earlier then most people think. Expand They might also decide they’d rather let Landeskog go and use the cap space on Eichel, which IMHO would be a case of them outsmarting themselves. 1
Brawndo Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 Samuel Girard is 23, signed for six more years at 6 Million AAV and Andre Burkovsky at 4.9 Million take care of the cap space. Girard, Newhook, another prospect and a 2022 1st plus Burkovsky as a cap dump is a starting point. Burkovsky could be flipped at the deadline for a 1st as he has no trade protection, increasing the return further. 2
Hoss Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 6:06 PM, Brawndo said: Samuel Girard is 23, signed for six more years at 6 Million AAV and Andre Burkovsky at 4.9 Million take care of the cap space. Girard, Newhook, another prospect and a 2022 1st plus Burkovsky as a cap dump is a starting point. Burkovsky could be flipped at the deadline for a 1st as he has no trade protection, increasing the return further. Expand Burakovsky has been very good since joining Colorado I wouldn’t view him as a cap dump and I don’t think Colorado would either.
French Collection Posted July 4, 2021 Report Posted July 4, 2021 On 7/4/2021 at 5:13 PM, Thorny said: What a GD roster that would be. It's hockey/entertainment for jeepers sake - If I'm an Avs fan I would be off-the-walls stoked if we could trot all those guys out there. Hell, they may even "Kucherov" Eichel one day and he comes back and dominates in the playoffs. Expand That one day could be this year if they let him have the surgery or a season’s rest.
CallawaySabres Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 This may have been mentioned already but most teams in the trade talks agree with the Sabres on how to treat the injury. Looks like Jack is going to have to do some back-peddling on a lot of those press conference darts being subtly thrown in Buffalo's direction. He's going to have to come up with some new excuses as to why he wants to be traded now. We all knew it was never the medical reason anyway, but it should get interesting now. If he does not change his mind on surgery, there are going to be a lot fewer teams in trade discussion. 5
Marvin Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 3:10 PM, CallawaySabres said: This may have been mentioned already but most teams in the trade talks agree with the Sabres on how to treat the injury. Looks like Jack is going to have to do some back-peddling on a lot of those press conference darts being subtly thrown in Buffalo's direction. He's going to have to come up with some new excuses as to why he wants to be traded now. We all knew it was never the medical reason anyway, but it should get interesting now. If he does not change his mind on surgery, there are going to be a lot fewer teams in trade discussion. Expand 1st underlined: I am not surprised at that, but has that been said publicly? I have had a couple of people say this privately. 1st and 2nd underlined: This probably hinges on who is on the hook if he gets hurt afterwards. Overall: is part of the compromise on a trade some conditional picks based on Jack's health and play? It seems like the simplest and fairest way to split the risk.
Curt Posted July 6, 2021 Report Posted July 6, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 3:10 PM, CallawaySabres said: This may have been mentioned already but most teams in the trade talks agree with the Sabres on how to treat the injury. Looks like Jack is going to have to do some back-peddling on a lot of those press conference darts being subtly thrown in Buffalo's direction. He's going to have to come up with some new excuses as to why he wants to be traded now. We all knew it was never the medical reason anyway, but it should get interesting now. If he does not change his mind on surgery, there are going to be a lot fewer teams in trade discussion. Expand This reads as though it’s common knowledge that Eichel has requested a trade because of the medical difference of opinion. Eichel doesn’t need to come up with any excuse for why he wants to be traded, because he hasn’t said he wants to be traded. At least not where any of us can hear it. My opinion: Its not going to get interesting. Neither Eichel or the team are going to say anything. There won’t be any back peddling or real excuses/reasons stated. We’ll just get vague cliches about how it was in the best interest of both parties to move on. He’ll be traded and that will be that. 1
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