Sabres Trade Taylor Hall (50% of His Salary Retained)and Curtis Lazar to Boston for a 2021 2nd and Anders Bjork

[Randall Flagg]

That would be an ugly return.

[Brawndo]

 

[triumph_communes]

Bjork is the type of player Granato would unlock.  Lots of potential getting caught up in systems play.  Young and in team control, something none of the other rentals have fetched in their trades. 
 

Going to miss Lazar though

Edited April 12, 2021 by triumph_communes

[Zamboni]

No retention of salary ...

[Randall Flagg]

I viewed Lazar as one of 5 or 6 forwards the Sabres needed to choose 2 of at most for next year's bottom 6 roles, so including him in something like this made sense, but they brought another guy back to add to that pool, kinda weird. 

[dudacek]

Just now, Zamboni said:

No retention of salary ...

Is that confirmed?

That would explain the return better, but not why they chose to go that direction.

[jahnyc]

If there was no retention of salary for Hall (and there was none for Montour), then financial considerations (i.e., reducing financial obligations) was an unfortunate part of the decision making with regard to these trades.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, dudacek said:

Is that confirmed?

That would explain the return better, but not why they chose to go that direction.

It's easy to explain why they went that direction. Terry Pegula is an idiot. 

[Brawndo]

Cagguila and Bjork both played for Granato at the USNTDP. 
 

That ***** interim label is being removed isn’t it. 

[Doohicksie]

2 minutes ago, triumph_communes said:

Bjork is the type of player Granato would unlock.  Lots of potential getting caught up in systems play.  Young and in team control, something none of the other rentals have fetched in their trades. 

It wasn't just a rental.  It was a rental plus a player under contract for another year, who happened to be better than the player coming back.  I like to think you're right, that Granato is The Prospect Whisperer, but this doesn't look like a great trade to me.

[Zamboni]

1 minute ago, dudacek said:

Is that confirmed?

That would explain the return better, but not why they chose to go that direction.

No I was just making note of that ... I would think by “now” if there was retention of salary, it would have been said by now. Maybe not...

[Eleven]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

It's easy to explain why they went that direction. Terry Pegula is an idiot. 

Terry Pegula had nothing to do with this and Kevyn Adams is disappointing me for the ninetieth time this month.

[Billznut]

Just now, Brawndo said:

Cagguila and Bjork both played for Granato at the USNTDP. 
 

That ***** interim label is being removed isn’t it. 

Wouldn’t doubt it. It would be a very Sabres thing to do at this point. 

[LGR4GM]

I see Adams is now getting his INTERIM ***** COACH players he wants. What a dumpster fire. 

Edited April 12, 2021 by LGR4GM

[Gatorman0519]

We have the worst front offices imaginable.  This is close to as bad as the ROR trade. I’m speechless. 

[triumph_communes]

2 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

It wasn't just a rental.  It was a rental plus a player under contract for another year, who happened to be better than the player coming back.  I like to think you're right, that Granato is The Prospect Whisperer, but this doesn't look like a great trade to me.

Bjork has three years at 1.6 then RFA. He’s another Thompson, but fast instead of tall.

 

It seems the over reaction babies have taken over and logic and reason is getting sucked out of the vacuum now. Turning a freaking 1ywar rental into long term assets is somehow bad asset management?  A late first round pick is lucky to turn into Bjork six years from now. 

Edited April 12, 2021 by triumph_communes

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Gatorman0519 said:

We have the worst front offices imaginable.  This is close to as bad as the ROR trade. I’m speechless. 

It's not but it's bad. 

[Doohicksie]

1 minute ago, Brawndo said:

That ***** interim label is being removed isn’t it. 

If Granato is The Prospect Whisperer, maybe that would be okay.  Sign Ullmark, Keep Eich and Reino around, and let Granato work his majick on the youngins.

[Curt]

1 minute ago, Gatorman0519 said:

We have the worst front offices imaginable.  This is close to as bad as the ROR trade. I’m speechless. 

No. It’s not.

[Doohicksie]

1 minute ago, Gatorman0519 said:

We have the worst front offices imaginable.  This is close to as bad as the ROR trade. I’m speechless. 

Now that's just funny.

[Curt]

Is it even possible that there is not salary retention?  Boston has that much cap space?

[Eleven]

So Boston didn't have a third-round pick to give to the Sabs?

 

[Billznut]

1 minute ago, Eleven said:

Terry Pegula had nothing to do with this and Kevyn Adams is disappointing me for the ninetieth time this month.

Does Adams have ANYBODY assisting him with his first trade deadline right now? Sabres didn’t get KA the necessary help fast enough and we are seeing the results. Ullmark probably gone tomorrow at this point too. 

[jahnyc]

Not as bad as the ROR trade because we are not getting a bunch of bad players with big contracts in return, but we just traded two players for one player who is worse than either of the two we traded.  This is how a bad team stays bad for the foreseeable future.

[Randall Flagg]

3 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said:

We have the worst front offices imaginable.  This is close to as bad as the ROR trade. I’m speechless. 

This trade turned an empty spot in the Sabres cupboard during September 2020 into a 2nd round pick. 

The ROR trade made us a leaguewide laughingstock and set the center spine back half of a decade. 

I hate this trade, it's weird to me, but its measurable impact on the course of the franchise is a net positive when emotions are detached, even though it was a mediocre trade. 

And It's possible that Kevyn liked this Bjork and didn't just get him to appease a guy who once coached him. Don Granato has coached many, many players