Scouting Department Changes Announced

[Brawndo]

22. It sounds like the Sabres are making some scouting changes. At the very least a shuffling, and then we see about external additions. Could be news on the assistant-GM front (Jason Karmanos very much a contender) this week.
 

From Elliotte Friedman 31 Thoughts Today 

Edited March 25, 2021 by Brawndo

[GASabresIUFAN]

Unless they hire more scouts, it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

 

[LGR4GM]

7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Unless they hire more scouts, it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

 

unless they complete restructure how they draft and what data they use to do it... yup deck chairs on the titanic. 

[Eleven]

9 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Unless they hire more scouts, it's just shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

 

Why?  Couldn't the same amount of BETTER scouts work?

[Brawndo]

12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

unless they complete restructure how they draft and what data they use to do it... yup deck chairs on the titanic. 

I think this is their plan, along with an expansion of the analytics department. 

[Brawndo]

2 hours ago, Kruppstahl said:

Looks like at least some type of minor changes are coming to the scouting department this week.

 

22. It sounds like the Sabres are making some scouting changes. At the very least a shuffling, and then we see about external additions. Could be news on the assistant-GM front (Jason Karmanos very much a contender) this week.

 

 

2 hours ago, Trettioåtta said:

22. It sounds like the Sabres are making some scouting changes. At the very least a shuffling, and then we see about external additions. Could be news on the assistant-GM front (Jason Karmanos very much a contender) this week.

From Friedman

Credit to these two for putting this into other threads earlier 

Edited March 23, 2021 by Brawndo

[Thorner]

17 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I think this is their plan, along with an expansion of the analytics department. 

So no actual additional scouts? 

[Brawndo]

14 minutes ago, Thorny said:

So no actual additional scouts? 

I haven’t heard yet, I think the plan is 2-5 at least more scouts though 

[Thwomp!]

5 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I haven’t heard yet, I think the plan is 2-5 at least more scouts though 

Maybe we can get up to at least one per league.

[matter2003]

Crazy to think how well run the Bills are and how crappily run the Sabres are by the same owners.

[That Aud Smell]

1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

Crazy to think how well run the Bills are and how crappily run the Sabres are by the same owners.

Welp. One franchise is part of a league that fairly prints money. The other ... not so much.

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

I think this is their plan, along with an expansion of the analytics department. 

I will believe when I see it at this point. They have drafted like drunken children for 15 years. 

[jad1]

17 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Crazy to think how well run the Bills are and how crappily run the Sabres are by the same owners.

The Bills have a good GM and coach, the Sabres don't.  The reason for that most likely comes down to luck, but that's it.

[LGR4GM]

19 minutes ago, jad1 said:

The Bills have a good GM and coach, the Sabres don't.  The reason for that most likely comes down to luck, but that's it.

That and the quality football demands. 

[dudacek]

24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I will believe when I see it at this point. They have drafted like drunken children for 15 years. 

Under 2 different owners, four GMS and at least six head scouts.

[PalmTreeMafia]

Nothing fundamentally changes until the fracker and his gold digging wife go bye bye.

[LGR4GM]

27 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Under 2 different owners, four GMS and at least six head scouts.

Even if we only go back to 2011 it's still bad. 

[HOF Wingman]

If my memory serves me, we once had a scouting department that was the envy of the league. Then Golisano and Quinn decided we could reduce expenses by gutting the scouting department by going to video scouting. A number of scouts went out the door including Luce, Carriere, Benning, etc. that brought in many foundational pieces. If you ask me, that is when this mess started. Now can we get out of it and hire the best Personnel people available to build a championship contender? The question of the day. This is where we should be putting our resources. The most important people in your organization are Personnel people. 

[Andrew Amerk]

2 minutes ago, HOF Wingman said:

If my memory serves me, we once had a scouting department that was the envy of the league. Then Golisano and Quinn decided we could reduce expenses by gutting the scouting department by going to video scouting. A number of scouts went out the door including Luce, Carriere, Benning, etc. that brought in many foundational pieces. If you ask me, that is when this mess started. Now can we get out of it and hire the best Personnel people available to build a championship contender? The question of the day. This is where we should be putting our resources. The most important people in your organization are Personnel people. 

You are a dreamer. 

[Marvin]

6 minutes ago, HOF Wingman said:

If my memory serves me, we once had a scouting department that was the envy of the league. Then Golisano and Quinn decided we could reduce expenses by gutting the scouting department by going to video scouting. A number of scouts went out the door including Luce, Carriere, Benning, etc. that brought in many foundational pieces. If you ask me, that is when this mess started. Now can we get out of it and hire the best Personnel people available to build a championship contender? The question of the day. This is where we should be putting our resources. The most important people in your organization are Personnel people. 

We need the volume of the Pegula era with the Quality before the lockout.

[LGR4GM]

12 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

We need the volume of the Pegula era with the Quality before the lockout.

Until they start adding analytics and specifically league adjusted player cohorts, doesn't matter. 

[Brawndo]

I think Scott Luce’s Contract is up with Vegas after this season 

[PerreaultForever]

So then firing everyone was just cost cutting and throwing away this season?

[HOF Wingman]

15 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said:

You are a dreamer. 

I want to win. 

[Marvin]

11 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

So then firing everyone was just cost cutting and throwing away this season?

Yes.

Try this mentally.

Compute your complete net worth.  House.  Retirement.  Collectible stamps.  Everything.

Now, liquidate enough of it to have 1% in cash in your hands.  Flush it down a toilet.  Now listen to me.

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"YOU STOOPID ****!  WHY COULDN'T YOU DO THAT TO 2% OF YOUR MONEY FOR MY ENTERTAINMENT?  WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU?  YOU MUST BE TRYING TO KILL PEOPLE!  WHO CARES THAT IT IS YOUR MONEY!  SPEND IT FOR ME!  WHY DIDN'T I GET MORE?"