2021 Buffalo Bills

[Claude Balls]

25 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Thanks. Are any of them remotely likely to make it for this Sunday?

Dodson is already cleared. Hopefully Dawkins and Feliciano can make it back.

The Patriots won't get hit with Covid until Monday. Wouldn't be surprised if they're somehow working around this whole deal. They've only had a few players on the list all season. F'n cheaters!!! Yeah, I'm sour, lol.

[inkman]

1 hour ago, JujuFish said:

One injury, to Sanders. And Gabe was just behind Diggs the week before (against Tampa), with Sanders in the lineup.

Sanders was ahead on the depth chart until his injury. It shouldn’t have been the case 

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, WildCard said:

Thanks. Are any of them remotely likely to make it for this Sunday?

Davis and Beasley are 100% out, I know that

[nfreeman]

2 hours ago, Radar said:

Maybe having possibly the worst offensive line in football and we're looking at Josh? He's fine and a few of his receivers as well. The rest of the offense and coaching has sucked.

The O-line has indeed been lousy, and the D has been exposed against the good teams as well.  But the Bills are built around JA.  If he doesn't play at an elite level, they have zero chance at a good playoff run.  And he's been inconsistent-to-lousy against good teams this year.

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

The O-line has indeed been lousy, and the D has been exposed against the good teams as well.  But the Bills are built around JA.  If he doesn't play at an elite level, they have zero chance at a good playoff run.  And he's been inconsistent-to-lousy against good teams this year.

... maybe that's because of the first part of what you said. 

Edited December 24, 2021 by LGR4GM

[Radar]

14 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

The O-line has indeed been lousy, and the D has been exposed against the good teams as well.  But the Bills are built around JA.  If he doesn't play at an elite level, they have zero chance at a good playoff run.  And he's been inconsistent-to-lousy against good teams this year.

As would most quarterbacks be with what's in front of him and no running game and questionable coaching.

[JujuFish]

10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

... maybe that's because of the first part of what you said. 

The line qas bad last year, but that didn't stop him from impressing.

[WildCard]

Just now, JujuFish said:

The line qas bad last year, but that didn't stop him from impressing.

The line was much, much better last year. It was at least average.

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, JujuFish said:

The line qas bad last year, but that didn't stop him from impressing.

What would you say if I said Allen has almost the exact same numbers as last year but is getting pressure more?

[JujuFish]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

What would you say if I said Allen has almost the exact same numbers as last year but is getting pressure more?

He has worse numbers this year, against easier competition, with horrible red zone efficiency.

[JujuFish]

6 minutes ago, WildCard said:

The line was much, much better last year. It was at least average.

Their performance in pass protection has been pretty much identical to last year.

[JujuFish]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32176833/2021-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings

9th in pass block win rate.

 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/basic-offensive-line

4th in adjusted sack rate.

 

 

Any other myths?

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32176833/2021-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings

9th in pass block win rate.

 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/basic-offensive-line

4th in adjusted sack rate.

 

 

Any other myths?

Speaking of myths...

 

11 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

He has worse numbers this year, against easier competition, with horrible red zone efficiency.

 

[LGR4GM]

10 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/basic-offensive-line

4th in adjusted sack rate.

Any other myths?

Sacks are a qb stat and Allen is hard to sack because he's 6'5" and built like a truck.

[Indabuff]

2 hours ago, JujuFish said:

This is the most up to date site I can find https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-covid-tracker-2021/

 

Buffalo Bills

• Cody Ford, OL | 12/24/21
• Gabriel Davis, WR | 12/24/21
• Cole Beasley, WR | 12/22/21
• Quintin Morris, TE | 12/22/21
• Mike Love, DE | 12/20/21
• A.J. Epenesa, DE | 12/20/21
• Jon Feliciano, OL | 12/19/21
• Dion Dawkins, LT | 12/18/21
• Tyrel Dodson, LB | 12/13/21

 

 

FFS.  Dodson?  Who the *****?!   

[JujuFish]

47 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Speaking of myths...

 

 

Ah yes, make a comparison after 8 weeks.  You know, the time that includes when Josh was injured and played his worst last year. 

[JujuFish]

2020 Josh:

 

2021 Josh:

 

Josh's Q1 and Q3 last year blow away any quarter he's had this year.  His Q2 last year, he was dealing with a shoulder injury.

[dudacek]

To me, lousy means - at best - below average. 
Horrible means right at the bottom or close to it.

The Bills have been around for what, 60 years? Where do Allen’s numbers rank on the all-time list of Bills QB seasons? How about the numbers of the offence, or the defence?

They’ve lost 6 games and 5 of them were by a TD or less. 

I can’t believe fans of the Bills, of all teams, have forgotten what lousy means.

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by dudacek

[LGR4GM]

14 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

2020 Josh:

 

2021 Josh:

 

Josh's Q1 and Q3 last year blow away any quarter he's had this year.  His Q2 last year, he was dealing with a shoulder injury.

So you're going to break up games in a way to eliminate data that would refute your point. 

26 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

Ah yes, make a comparison after 8 weeks.  You know, the time that includes when Josh was injured and played his worst last year. 

You'll just keeping moving your goalposts. Whatever it takes to eliminate data that refutes your point. 

[LGR4GM]

18 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

2020 Josh:

 

2021 Josh:

 

Josh's Q1 and Q3 last year blow away any quarter he's had this year.  His Q2 last year, he was dealing with a shoulder injury.

His Q3 this year he's been dealing with a line that hasn't been the same 5 guys at any point all while dealing with some of the dumbest offensive play calling ever witnessed. 

Josh is basically the same as last year. His defense is jekyll and Hyde and his offensive line is a patchwork of bodies Frankensteined together. 

[Hank]

I love Josh, have from day one when many were bashing him, but he's had a few clunkers this year. Even though his year to date stats are similar to last year, he's had some bad games. 

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Hank said:

I love Josh, have from day one when many were bashing him, but he's had a few clunkers this year. Even though his year to date stats are similar to last year, he's had some bad games. 

Absolutely, wouldn't deny that but the team around him isn't that good. 

[LGR4GM]

Personally I think part of the issues this year have been Daboll trying to make ever play a 10-20yrd throw downfield and Frazer insisting 2 linebackers, one with terrible tracking, can stop the run. 

[Hank]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Absolutely, wouldn't deny that but the team around him isn't that good. 

No, it is not. But I'm still hopeful. 

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Personally I think part of the issues this year have been Daboll trying to make ever play a 10-20yrd throw downfield and Frazer insisting 2 linebackers, one with terrible tracking, can stop the run. 

Last year people were calling Daboll a genius. It's puzzling. 

[JujuFish]

36 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

So you're going to break up games in a way to eliminate data that would refute your point. 

You'll just keeping moving your goalposts. Whatever it takes to eliminate data that refutes your point. 

Moving goalposts? You're the one that cut back to 8 weeks.  Try again.