Andrew Amerk Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zamboni said: If you HAD to chose one of Boudreau, Gallant, or Julien to replace RK ... who would you logically choose? And Why? Sell the rest of us on why your choice is best. Mods, if this deserves its own thread, feel free to move it. No Babcock option?
Zamboni Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: No Babcock option? Sure add Babcock. Why do you want him?
thewookie1 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 Gallant would be my choice primarily due to his past successful runs with odd groups of players in both Florida and Vegas. Julien, while a great coach, would likely want a defensive system; less than Krueger but still D oriented. Boudreau would be an ok choice but he's rather well known for great regular seasons that die in the playoffs. (Granted at this point I could live with that for a year or two) Babcock is a huge no from me. He stood us up back with Murray and has an atrocious track record with younger players. I want a tougher coach, not one that phytologically and physically bullies them. 2
SDS Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 58 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Dimitri Filipovic is an analyst for EP Rinkside and the PDO Podcast. He was on with Howard and Jeremy this AM and broke down the flaws in Krueger’s System the reasons behind it. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/howard-and-jeremy/id1142016942?i=1000511437609 The only Forwards who have been consistent healthy scratches have been Cozens, Mitts and Skinner. Eakin and Okposo despite stretches of poor play remain in the lineup. I know what they can do and more importantly what they cannot. At this point of the season I need to see what CJ Smith, Ogileve and Artuu can do. The Biggest Advantage to replacing Krueger now, especially if it’s one of Boudreau, Gallant or Julien, is that Jack will get an idea of what next season will be like and both he and the front office can evaluate their positions. Hopefully Jack likes the New System and the trade chatter disappears. Are these the only points worth noting or is there another reason to listen to that?
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 Didn't Julien lead Boston to a Cup victory with a very balanced team? Didn't he also win a President's Cup with the Bruins. He'd bring much needed credibility and accountability to the lockerroom.
thewookie1 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Didn't Julien lead Boston to a Cup victory with a very balanced team? Didn't he also win a President's Cup with the Bruins. He'd bring much needed credibility and accountability to the lockerroom. Its hard to say if was balanced or more defensive in nature. I just don't think he and Skinner would work well together.
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Last Eichel Fan said: A team back in the day of ties that was 5-5-2 was “five hundred”, and a mid pack team. Those “1 pointers” weren’t indicative of losing ground to your opponent, which is what 1 point represents now. About half the teams make the playoffs. That’s why getting about half the total available points was seen as an acceptable mark, cause mid-pack is about the playoff line. That was when there was only 2 points given out each game, though, where no matter what, the average points earned per game among the 2 teams was 1. Or, 1 of an “available” 2, ie .500. Nowadays, teams earn on average more than 1 point a game due to the presence of the loser point, so averaging 1 a game, or .500, isn’t good anymore league relative. It’s below average Right, that's why I did 1.15pts 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: Dimitri Filipovic is an analyst for EP Rinkside and the PDO Podcast. He was on with Howard and Jeremy this AM and broke down the flaws in Krueger’s System the reasons behind it. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/howard-and-jeremy/id1142016942?i=1000511437609 The only Forwards who have been consistent healthy scratches have been Cozens, Mitts and Skinner. Eakin and Okposo despite stretches of poor play remain in the lineup. I know what they can do and more importantly what they cannot. At this point of the season I need to see what CJ Smith, Ogileve and Artuu can do. The Biggest Advantage to replacing Krueger now, especially if it’s one of Boudreau, Gallant or Julien, is that Jack will get an idea of what next season will be like and both he and the front office can evaluate their positions. Hopefully Jack likes the New System and the trade chatter disappears. What's the general summary of Kruegers system? 1
SDS Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Right, that's why I did 1.15pts What's the general summary of Kruegers system? It was not discussed in detail. The larger point was that the Sabres are a “low event“ team (define as shots for and against) when we have personnel that should be more wheeling and dealing and therefore it’s a extremely bad mismatch between personnel and system. He claims that the Sabres are often told to stay behind the play and aren’t really activating people forward to join the rush. doesn’t think that any coach would do wonders with this roster, but we’re getting the least out of them. Points to the fact that everyone is slumping is a sign of something more systemic. 5
Gatorman0519 Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, thewookie1 said: Gallant would be my choice primarily due to his past successful runs with odd groups of players in both Florida and Vegas. Julien, while a great coach, would likely want a defensive system; less than Krueger but still D oriented. Boudreau would be an ok choice but he's rather well known for great regular seasons that die in the playoffs. (Granted at this point I could live with that for a year or two) Babcock is a huge no from me. He stood us up back with Murray and has an atrocious track record with younger players. I want a tougher coach, not one that phytologically and physically bullies them. Gallant for the same reasons. He has pretty quick success too. Anything is better than this. 3
MODO Hockey Posted March 4, 2021 Author Report Posted March 4, 2021 Why is this bum still here fk sake. 1
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 7 hours ago, SDS said: It was not discussed in detail. The larger point was that the Sabres are a “low event“ team (define as shots for and against) when we have personnel that should be more wheeling and dealing and therefore it’s a extremely bad mismatch between personnel and system. He claims that the Sabres are often told to stay behind the play and aren’t really activating people forward to join the rush. doesn’t think that any coach would do wonders with this roster, but we’re getting the least out of them. Points to the fact that everyone is slumping is a sign of something more systemic. This has been noted on this board before. "Stay above the puck" is the term Krueger has used and it clearly DOES NOT WORK. I think this layout of how many players are slumping and the obvious issues with the system are clear. The Sabres also seem to have issues on rushes maintaining coverage in their zone... almost like Steve Smith isn't great. Final thought here, if you all want to know what Dahlin doesn't look right, it is because he is being asked to literally not play the way he does. It would be like telling a tennis player that they have to lob serve when they are Federer. 2 1
Drag0nDan Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Zamboni said: If you HAD to chose one of Boudreau, Gallant, or Julien to replace RK ... who would you logically choose? And Why? Sell the rest of us on why your choice is best. Mods, if this deserves its own thread, feel free to move it. Boudreau almost always makes the playoffs. Julien has cup winning resume. Gallant did some magic with an expansion team. All 3 have won jack adams trophy once. Honestly - I'm probably partial to Gallant. Julien seems to be a defense first guy, and that's not going to help the team with goal scoring troubles.
LGR4GM Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said: Boudreau almost always makes the playoffs. Julien has cup winning resume. Gallant did some magic with an expansion team. All 3 have won jack adams trophy once. Honestly - I'm probably partial to Gallant. Julien seems to be a defense first guy, and that's not going to help the team with goal scoring troubles. I like Gallant as well. I think Florida screwed him and I think Vegas panicked.
apuszczalowski Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 Ralph isn't going anywhere during the season They will probably use the excuse of the shortened season and new GM to give him another offseason to try and turn things around. 2
woods-racer Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 10 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Right, that's why I did 1.15pts What's the general summary of Kruegers system? He called Krueger's system one that matches The Isles and the Blues, which none of our top 6f/4d are suited to play in. We can have a debate about Sam on this, but his overall point is well taken. Filipovic was asked to rank on a scale from 1-10 how bad a match is it of system to players. He wouldn't do that but did go into a 2 minute discussion that it can't be all bad *puck luck* for some of the leagues best goal scores to be having the worst years of their careers. He specifically mentioned Jack, Jeff and Hall. He ended the discussion with a verbal illustration of a play with Montour leading the rush up ice as a puck moving defenseman with his skill set would do, only for it to cause a break down of Krueger's system so the puck gets turned over and a penalty on the play against Buffalo ensues. When I heard Filipovic talk and how he painted this team, he paints it leaning heavily to a 5 man rush counter attack, good and fast skating team. Not just offense, but defense also. No Stanley Cup winner as it stands right now, but certainly not a basement dweller in goals scored. I thought Lindy Ruff style hockey, but without a true NHL goalie tandem, is how he painted the picture of this team to me. 1
Doohicksie Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, woods-racer said: it can't be all bad *puck luck* If what you're doing isn't working at some point you have to do something, anything, to make your own puck luck.
woods-racer Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 52 minutes ago, Doohickie said: If what you're doing isn't working at some point you have to do something, anything, to make your own puck luck. Let your team play to it's strengths and I'm sure our puck luck will do a 180.
Doohicksie Posted March 4, 2021 Report Posted March 4, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, woods-racer said: Let your team play to it's strengths and I'm sure our puck luck will do a 180. Yeah, that's basically what I meant. We're not lucky because we're not pressing the advantage on our chances. My son related to me a video he watched about a skirmish in the Battle of Leyte Gulf in WWII. A small patrol group (destroyers and escort carriers) encountered the heavy battleship Yamato with a complement of cruisers and other ships. The Yamato alone had greater displacement than the entire American group. Due to bad weather they kind of tripped across each other. The Americans felt they were likely to be destroyed either way so went into full attack mode. They ended up ravaging the Yamato group, sinking several ships and heavily damaging the flagship. The American force played into its strengths and succeeded with an inferior force. Why? Because they made their own luck. There's a lesson to be learned here. Disclosure: I didn't watch the actual video, but this might be it. Edited March 4, 2021 by Doohickie 1
apuszczalowski Posted March 5, 2021 Report Posted March 5, 2021 8 hours ago, woods-racer said: Let your team play to it's strengths and I'm sure our puck luck will do a 180. Like put Skinner back with Eichel where he had his career year to see if maybe that would spark something? I never understood why RK came in and split them up. I understand teh original thinking of splitting them up in hopes that both guys could carry or spark other lines/players, but once Skinners production started going down, why not put him back and try to rekindle that magic? Is it going to be hurtful that they have a line producing alot instead of trying to spread it out between lines? Right now it shouldn't matter if only one line is putting up all the points because its better then no lines putting up points..... 1
LGR4GM Posted March 5, 2021 Report Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Like put Skinner back with Eichel where he had his career year to see if maybe that would spark something? I never understood why RK came in and split them up. I understand teh original thinking of splitting them up in hopes that both guys could carry or spark other lines/players, but once Skinners production started going down, why not put him back and try to rekindle that magic? Is it going to be hurtful that they have a line producing alot instead of trying to spread it out between lines? Right now it shouldn't matter if only one line is putting up all the points because its better then no lines putting up points..... I understand. RK hates Skinner because Skinner free wheels. 1
Carmel Corn Posted March 5, 2021 Report Posted March 5, 2021 I don't know how many of you have heard of this term before, but Ralph is the perfect example of this in the NHL. IMHO, he is the epitome of the term "The Articulate Incompetent". I first heard of this with respect to the worst possible person to hire for a job. Google it and you'll see statements like: "Beware of the articulate incompetent" "The most dangerous person in the world is the 'articulate incompetent.'" "Only intuition can protect you from the most dangerous individual of all, the articulate incompetent." Folks, I give you Ralph Krueger....the NHL version of THE ARTICULATE INCOMPETENT. How lucky we are (ugh)! 2
Marvin Posted March 5, 2021 Report Posted March 5, 2021 9 hours ago, Doohickie said: Yeah, that's basically what I meant. We're not lucky because we're not pressing the advantage on our chances. My son related to me a video he watched about a skirmish in the Battle of Leyte Gulf in WWII. A small patrol group (destroyers and escort carriers) encountered the heavy battleship Yamato with a complement of cruisers and other ships. The Yamato alone had greater displacement than the entire American group. Due to bad weather they kind of tripped across each other. The Americans felt they were likely to be destroyed either way so went into full attack mode. They ended up ravaging the Yamato group, sinking several ships and heavily damaging the flagship. The American force played into its strengths and succeeded with an inferior force. Why? Because they made their own luck. There's a lesson to be learned here. Disclosure: I didn't watch the actual video, but this might be it. The players look like they don't believe in the system. I get this weird impression that every time something goes awry, they deviate more and more from it. 1 1
gomper Posted March 5, 2021 Report Posted March 5, 2021 Well, the Flames just fired Ward for way less transgressions. Hopefully today.
MODO Hockey Posted March 5, 2021 Author Report Posted March 5, 2021 This is absolut insanity. HOW CAN THIS IDIOT STILL BE COACH ... LIKE WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?! hate is a strong word, but frankly i HATE RALPH. K! ***** YOU RALPH, ***** YOU 3 1
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