That Aud Smell Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 Hasn't the opt-out deadline passed for all NHL players? I recall something about that deadline being one date for the non-playoff teams, and then slightly later for the playoff teams. In all events, the dates were in late December 2020. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said: Hasn't the opt-out deadline passed for all NHL players? I recall something about that deadline being one date for the non-playoff teams, and then slightly later for the playoff teams. In all events, the dates were in late December 2020. Might be an exception for a family emergency. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Might be an exception for a family emergency. In that event, I feel like they would be back in the realm of how personal leaves for family medical emergencies are handled under the CBA/player's contract. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, That Aud Smell said: In that event, I feel like they would be back in the realm of how personal leaves for family medical emergencies are handled under the CBA/player's contract. Covid makes everything different. I'm not sure what the quarantine rules are, but if he returns to Sweden for a family emergency, he may have to quarantine when he gets there and may have to quarantine again when he returns. This could end up being a season long process depending on how long the emergency with his family lasts. Quote
Stoner Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 Maybe he doesn't want to live in the greatest country in the world anymore? Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Maybe he doesn't want to live in the greatest country in the world anymore? Maybe he feels that after tomorrow it won’t be so great anymore, lol. 4 Quote
I-90 W Posted January 19, 2021 Author Report Posted January 19, 2021 Contract or not, couldn’t the NYS FMLA law still apply? I would hope so, but am not sure. Quote
Pimlach Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Thorny said: Like i said, I think he was considering opting out. Just a guess. If he opts out now, once the season has started, they might not want him back next year. Of course it would depend on the reason why but there are scenarios where I could see the them moving on. Especially with the Sabres talking about building a culture like the Bills have. Uhlmark leaving could lead to another lost season. I hope not, and I hope things work out for him. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 55 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Covid makes everything different. I'm not sure what the quarantine rules are, but if he returns to Sweden for a family emergency, he may have to quarantine when he gets there and may have to quarantine again when he returns. This could end up being a season long process depending on how long the emergency with his family lasts. It's true, of course, that these are unprecedented times. I'm just not sure the opt-out window would be re-opened to address this situation. If he were looking to take a personal leave - and the timing associated with that leave is protracted because of the pandemic - then he and the team (and maybe the league) would have some sorting out to do. I had expected some more context by this time today. Quote
inkman Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 The amount of unwarranted speculation in this thread in what could be a deeply troubling and personal matter is distasteful. 9 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, inkman said: The amount of unwarranted speculation in this thread in what could be a deeply troubling and personal matter is distasteful. I don't anyone is being disrespectful at all. Actually it sounds like people are trying to be supportive and just figure out how a situation like this gets handled in the new COVID world of ours. Asking about quarantine or opt out rules isn't disrespectful, nor is hoping everything will be OK. 2 Quote
Pimlach Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 51 minutes ago, inkman said: The amount of unwarranted speculation in this thread in what could be a deeply troubling and personal matter is distasteful. If it is a “deeply troubling and personal matter” then the leaking of it is what is distasteful. 3 Quote
klos1963 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 Do we start donating to some charity now? Sorry, too soon? Quote
Curt Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, klos1963 said: Do we start donating to some charity now? Sorry, too soon? Yeah, just mail me a check. 2 Quote
Thorner Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: Hasn't the opt-out deadline passed for all NHL players? I recall something about that deadline being one date for the non-playoff teams, and then slightly later for the playoff teams. In all events, the dates were in late December 2020. They wouldn't stop a player. Just ask Berglund. 1 Quote
apuszczalowski Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 5 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: Hasn't the opt-out deadline passed for all NHL players? I recall something about that deadline being one date for the non-playoff teams, and then slightly later for the playoff teams. In all events, the dates were in late December 2020. It did, I think it was back before Christmas, but maybe they still can but have some penalties like they don't get paid, or they don't get a year of credit? In Kane's bankruptcy filing which was apparently filed in early January, it noted that he could opt out of the season, even though the deadline had passed. 1 Quote
Zamboni Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 I wonder if and when we’ll get a true answer as to why he’s not playing. It can’t be visa issues. Maybe he was around someone who had COVID so he quarantines for a week or so out of caution to his fellow league players. Quote
Thorner Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Zamboni said: I wonder if and when we’ll get a true answer as to why he’s not playing. It can’t be visa issues. Maybe he was around someone who had COVID so he quarantines for a week or so out of caution to his fellow league players. I keep going back to this, but I like to because it's a way better scenario than the other - my gut says there's a little too much "wait and see", from what I can tell, for this to be a critical situation at home. That's what I am hoping for, first and foremost, nothing else really matters. My guess is that he was considering an opt-out for most of the others reasons we've seen players go that route. He has a young family, and remember, the Sabres didn't play during any of the Covid stuff last year. It may just be an experience he's not up for. Quote
dudacek Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 COVID exposures are publicized as per the Return to Play Agreement. Injuries are also reported through standard channels. Something upsetting or traumatic has happened to him or someone within his close circle and the team is giving him some time to deal with it on his own schedule. Whatever it is has not resulted in him immediately leaving the team for Buffalo or Sweden. I suspect he will either play this weekend or take some kind of leave of absence. Quote
JohnC Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 5:46 PM, Pimlach said: If it is a “deeply troubling and personal matter” then the leaking of it is what is distasteful. What's remarkable and even admirable is that even though the organization and even some members of the press know what the issue is for Ullmark it hasn't so far to my knowledge been leaked. 5 Quote
MODO Hockey Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 11:46 PM, Pimlach said: If it is a “deeply troubling and personal matter” then the leaking of it is what is distasteful. What has been leaked? as far as i know nothing has been leaked other than it's personal. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, MODO Hockey said: What has been leaked? as far as i know nothing has been leaked other than it's personal. I feel like I'm missing something. Does anyone actually know anything about what's actually going on with him? Quote
inkman Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I feel like I'm missing something. Does anyone actually know anything about what's actually going on with him? The team knows. We don’t. Quote
Stoner Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 ink is first star of this thread. Unseemly to the max. Imagine — there's something we DON'T KNOW about a Buffalo Sabre, and it can't be divined by our hockey scholars. Heads are exploding, quietly. Quote
Doohicksie Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 See new thread: His dad passed away. 1 Quote
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