Taro T Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Thorny said: No you are like me you want to trade the pick for a now player, and keep our best guys. Admit it! Have been VERY "vocal" in my preference of keeping what they have & actually adding to it. If Adams could make the cap work bringing in Danault & having 2 quality NHL goalies in house AND converting 1 OA into a young guy that's top 9 but projects to grow into top 6; heck yeah. But we're likely not keeping Eichel & if Adams swaps out Eichel & 1OA for some version of prospects & picks to maybe, hopefully, possibly be relevant in 3 years, well ... (And let's face it, if 1 OA is traded, that's the more likely outcome.) Not wishing life away, but October can't get here soon enough. This summer will stink. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 13 hours ago, Taro T said: Have been VERY "vocal" in my preference of keeping what they have & actually adding to it. If Adams could make the cap work bringing in Danault & having 2 quality NHL goalies in house AND converting 1 OA into a young guy that's top 9 but projects to grow into top 6; heck yeah. But we're likely not keeping Eichel & if Adams swaps out Eichel & 1OA for some version of prospects & picks to maybe, hopefully, possibly be relevant in 3 years, well ... (And let's face it, if 1 OA is traded, that's the more likely outcome.) Not wishing life away, but October can't get here soon enough. This summer will stink. What an atrocious idea. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: What an atrocious idea. I believe the spirit of that suggestion would be something like Newhook for our 1OA. In the hypothetical, maybe the Avs are in love with Power or something and feel good about their current F talent. Do you make that trade? Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 https://www.si.com/hockey/news/2021-final-draft-rankings Hockey Writers rankings Simon Edvinsson at #2 is... something. 1 minute ago, Thorny said: I believe the spirit of that suggestion would be something like Newhook for our 1OA. In the hypothetical, maybe the Avs are in love with Power or something and feel good about their current F talent. Do you make that trade? I guess Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: I believe the spirit of that suggestion would be something like Newhook for our 1OA. In the hypothetical, maybe the Avs are in love with Power or something and feel good about their current F talent. Do you make that trade? Newhook isn't a top 9 who projects to a top 6 down the road. He's a top 6 who could be a top 3 down the road. A top 9 to me is someone like Tage Thompson who you hope is a top 6 not an A rank top prospect. I wouldn't trade 1oa for a Tage level prospect. Quote
Thorner Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Newhook isn't a top 9 who projects to a top 6 down the road. He's a top 6 who could be a top 3 down the road. A top 9 to me is someone like Tage Thompson who you hope is a top 6 not an A rank top prospect. I wouldn't trade 1oa for a Tage level prospect. I don't think he was playing that this season, though. Top 9 would be a pretty reasonable expectation for him for say next season. Yes I'd want that first line projection too, as opposed to top 6. Second bold goes without saying Quote
Taro T Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Newhook isn't a top 9 who projects to a top 6 down the road. He's a top 6 who could be a top 3 down the road. A top 9 to me is someone like Tage Thompson who you hope is a top 6 not an A rank top prospect. I wouldn't trade 1oa for a Tage level prospect. Newhook is a top 6 TODAY? Didn't say to trade 1 OA for a Tage Thompson. He's not solidly a top 9 and he doesn't project out as a surefire top 6. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taro T said: Newhook is a top 6 TODAY? Didn't say to trade 1 OA for a Tage Thompson. He's not solidly a top 9 and he doesn't project out as a surefire top 6. Yea... we already talked about it. See above. Quote
Taro T Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Yea... we already talked about it. See above. WE did? You and @Thorny spoke about it. Not us. And you didn't really answer the question in that exchange. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 Just now, Taro T said: WE did? You and @Thorny spoke about it. Not us. And you didn't really answer the question in that exchange. Idk what question you need answering? Quote
Taro T Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Idk what question you need answering? Where's the :rolleyes: emoji when you really need it? 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Taro T said: Where's the :rolleyes: emoji when you really need it? Ok, we're done here. I didn't understand your initial post and Thorny helped clarify your meaning. You want some question answered that I was not sure of and you're being a jerk about just asking it. Enjoy. Quote
Taro T Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Ok, we're done here. I didn't understand your initial post and Thorny helped clarify your meaning. You want some question answered that I was not sure of and you're being a jerk about just asking it. Enjoy. Again, where's the :rolleyes: emoji when you really need it? 😉 Quote
Weave Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, Taro T said: Again, where's the :rolleyes: emoji when you really need it? 😉 1 Quote
rakish Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Again, where's the :rolleyes: emoji when you really need it? 😉 I've started to use the laugh button, I don't want to, but I can't seem to stop 1 Quote
rakish Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, rakish said: I've started to use the laugh button, I don't want to, but I can't seem to stop Your response was cold 2 Quote
Flashsabre Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/sportsnets-2021-nhl-draft-prospect-rankings-final-edition/ Quote
JohnC Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Ok, we're done here. I didn't understand your initial post and Thorny helped clarify your meaning. You want some question answered that I was not sure of and you're being a jerk about just asking it. Enjoy. Can you give a few intriguing players who might be available with our second round picks? And some very upside and not necessarily high profile prospects who have slid down the board who might be available when our second round picks come up? 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, JohnC said: Can you give a few intriguing players who might be available with our second round picks? And some very upside and not necessarily high profile prospects who have slid down the board who might be available when our second round picks come up? Olen Zellweger would be first on my list. He is an exceptionally late bday for this draft and he put up a ppg as a defender in the WHL. Skating is sublime. Corson Ceulemans is another defender who looked really good at the u18s and might go a bit higher than 32 but is a name to watch. Ville Koivunen was very good in the j20 league in Sweden as an underager and is a selfless playmaker who can do it all. Improved skating could make him a steal. Chase Stillman is an OHL winger who played overseas. The book on him is that he has lots of skills but needs some confidence. Laim Nilsson is a guy I was just starting to do more work on. Sean Morrow, Isak Rosen, Tyler Boucher, Sean Behrens 1 1 Quote
JohnC Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Olen Zellweger would be first on my list. He is an exceptionally late bday for this draft and he put up a ppg as a defender in the WHL. Skating is sublime. Corson Ceulemans is another defender who looked really good at the u18s and might go a bit higher than 32 but is a name to watch. Ville Koivunen was very good in the j20 league in Sweden as an underager and is a selfless playmaker who can do it all. Improved skating could make him a steal. Chase Stillman is an OHL winger who played overseas. The book on him is that he has lots of skills but needs some confidence. Laim Nilsson is a guy I was just starting to do more work on. Sean Morrow, Isak Rosen, Tyler Boucher, Sean Behrens Fantastic work. Thank you. Quote
Hoss Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Laim Nilsson is a guy I was just starting to do more work on. That’d be an interesting pick if he gets Taken. I wonder if he has a very particular set of skills. 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JohnC said: Fantastic work. Thank you. I forgot one, Victor Stjernborg. Played solid in the SHL at 17... yes I said 17 as he has a May birthday. He's more of a Boston pick guy though as he doesn't have a ton of offensive skills but he's like bigger Larsson. 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: That’d be an interesting pick if he gets Taken. I wonder if he has a very particular set of skills. The only problem is, if he finds you, he will kill you. Edited July 14, 2021 by LGR4GM 1 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: The only problem is, if he finds you, he will kill you. Then I hope he finds Marchand. Quote
Curt Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Hoss said: That’d be an interesting pick if he gets Taken. I wonder if he has a very particular set of skills. I was searching for something like this. Yours is better than anything I would have come up with. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 Robert Orr is another name but I would bet money he slips into the 3rd which I think will end up being a mistake. Quote
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