Ducky Posted January 17, 2021 Report Posted January 17, 2021 Let me take a shot... Skinner - Eichel - Olofsson Hall - Cozens - Reinhart Eakin - Staal - TT Rieder - Sheahan - Okposo Dahlin - Ristolainen McCabe - Miller Irwin - Jokiharju 2 Quote
Thorner Posted January 18, 2021 Report Posted January 18, 2021 22 hours ago, Ducky said: Let me take a shot... Skinner - Eichel - Olofsson Hall - Cozens - Reinhart Eakin - Staal - TT Rieder - Sheahan - Okposo Dahlin - Ristolainen McCabe - Miller Irwin - Jokiharju I continue to think there are several interesting and potentially effective ways to structure the lines when you don't willingly put one of your best in a bad spot. Quote
dudacek Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 Not sure where else to put this but Sabres are 10th in the league on faceoffs so far this year at 53 per cent. Sheahan 86 Eakin 61 Lazar 54 Staal 54 Eichel 46 Jack is taking way too many draws 😋 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 19, 2021 Author Report Posted January 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, dudacek said: Not sure where else to put this but Sabres are 10th in the league on faceoffs so far this year at 53 per cent. Sheahan 86 Eakin 61 Lazar 54 Staal 54 Eichel 46 Jack is taking way too many draws 😋 Crosby to become great learned to win draws. He was bad the 1st two years and has been 50% or better ever since. Jack has gotten better, but he needs to be over 50% since he is the man that makes the PP go. 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 Just went to the Sabres.com site to check stats, been a long while since I've done that. Two things are abundantly becoming clear..... 1. Anyone who plays with Hall and Eichel are going to have a career year goal scoring and points wise. 2. Although Skinner has no points, he and Lazar are like peas and carrots, they just belong together. 1 Quote
matter2003 Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 Hall has been amazing with Eichel...always creating chances...6 points in 3 games. Reinhart-Eichel-Hall might be one of the best lines in the NHL this year. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 19, 2021 Author Report Posted January 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Scottysabres said: Just went to the Sabres.com site to check stats, been a long while since I've done that. Two things are abundantly becoming clear..... 1. Anyone who plays with Hall and Eichel are going to have a career year goal scoring and points wise. 2. Although Skinner has no points, he and Lazar are like peas and carrots, they just belong together. I don’t think anyone really minds to much having Lazar w Skinner. The problem is not having a skilled winger on the other side. 1 Quote
steveoath Posted January 19, 2021 Report Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I don’t think anyone really minds to much having Lazar w Skinner. The problem is not having a skilled winger on the other side. Too early for a quinn cameo? Quote
Thorner Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 5 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I don’t think anyone really minds to much having Lazar w Skinner. The problem is not having a skilled winger on the other side. Yep. Quote
nfreeman Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 I guess Asplund is ahead of Mitts in the rotation, innit? Quote
Thorner Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, nfreeman said: I guess Asplund is ahead of Mitts in the rotation, innit? At least for that role. We know how particular Ralph can be with roles. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 On 1/17/2021 at 12:09 AM, Ducky said: Let me take a shot... Skinner - Eichel - Olofsson Hall - Cozens - Reinhart Eakin - Staal - TT Rieder - Sheahan - Okposo Dahlin - Ristolainen McCabe - Miller Irwin - Jokiharju Hall - Eichel - Reinhart Olofsson - Staal - ???Tage Skinner - Sheahan - Cozens Rieder - Lazar - Eakin Quote
Thorner Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Olofsson has been the biggest issue at 5 v 5 from players we are expecting to sincerely contribute. He should be off line 2 right now IMO To the lineup posted above, I'd just switch Staal and Sheahan's wingers otherwise I like it. Though, if Staal is sunk (not saying that), maybe Sheahan IS our 2C...haha. Give that line the secondary offensive minutes, then. And get Cozens to C as quick as possible. Speaking of, do people still see C as where Cozens eventually ends up? Edited January 21, 2021 by Thorny Quote
Weave Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thorny said: Olofsson has been the biggest issue at 5 v 5 from players we are expecting to sincerely contribute. He should be off line 2 right now IMO To the lineup posted above, I'd just switch Staal and Sheahan's wingers otherwise I like it. Though, if Staal is sunk (not saying that), maybe Sheahan IS our 2C...haha. Give that line the secondary offensive minutes, then. And get Cozens to C as quick as possible. Speaking of, do people still see C as where Cozens eventually ends up? Need to see him at C at this level. He looks good at W, and looked phenomenal at W in the tourney. 2 Quote
Thorner Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Weave said: Need to see him at C at this level. He looks good at W, and looked phenomenal at W in the tourney. Ya, I think he has a long term W career all but locked up. From his perspective, he's set. From the team's, there is a lot more value to be taken advantage of if we can get him to C. And that's BEFORE look at the centre wasteland behind him. Quote
Curt Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 53 minutes ago, Thorny said: Olofsson has been the biggest issue at 5 v 5 from players we are expecting to sincerely contribute. He should be off line 2 right now IMO To the lineup posted above, I'd just switch Staal and Sheahan's wingers otherwise I like it. Though, if Staal is sunk (not saying that), maybe Sheahan IS our 2C...haha. Give that line the secondary offensive minutes, then. And get Cozens to C as quick as possible. Speaking of, do people still see C as where Cozens eventually ends up? I see no reason why Cozens shouldn’t be able to a C long term. I’d like to see him periodically get some time at C this season. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Posted January 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, Curt said: I see no reason why Cozens shouldn’t be able to a C long term. I’d like to see him periodically get some time at C this season. Best way to learn to play C in the NHL is to actually play C in the NHL. Quote
nfreeman Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 If Staal doesn't show signs of life for, say, another month, RK will need to try Cozens at C -- and it might take less time than that. 1 Quote
Curt Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Best way to learn to play C in the NHL is to actually play C in the NHL. Yup, just think it’s ok to ease him into it. Let him get like ten games in, then start working him in at C. If it goes great, that’s great! If it’s up and down, take it slow. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Posted January 21, 2021 This is the lineup I'd like to see the next game Hall Eichel Reinhart Skinner Staal Thompson Olofsson Cozens Rieder Lazar Eakin Sheahan 1 Quote
Thorner Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 ^ That's not bad but I think @dudacekmay be onto something when he mentioned splitting Hall away from Eichel. Not that that's the move I want to go to now, and he came at it from the perspective of jump starting line 2 - but VO could be a factor here. If they put VO back up on the top line and boom, he looks great again (thank you, Jack (and Sam), maybe that line doesn't drop off much at ES, and Hall, who's looked good, absolutely gives us another scoring line. He's used to carrying the load on a line. It really opens up the lineup, at that point, we can afford to put Skinner with Cozens on line 3. Olofsson - Eichel - Reinhart Hall - Staal - Thompson Skinner - Cozens - Sheahan Rieder - Eakin - Lazar I really like Sheahan on that line, too, should be pretty defensively responsible, and if Cozens and Skinner mesh offensively, woo boy. Quote
Thorner Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) That Botterill quote about Eichel needing to be like Crosby that I so detested does have a bit of merit to it, not in the sense that you can expect anyone to elevate like Sid does, but Eichel is sorta imo revealing himself to be a guy that, while can't get away with nobodies, really works well with GOOD players, but players that still have a noticeable draw back to their game. He doesn't need to line up with all-stars, but he's great at adapting to allow the specific exceptional skills of those he's beside, to shine. He unlocked Skinner's 40 goal potential by shooting near the top of the league in volume, allowing Skinner to clean up in front. He understands (hockey sense somehow underrated) how to capitalize on what Reinhart brings in transition. VO looked good with him. Maybe Hall Eichel on the same line is a tad bit of overkill, as weird as it is to say. I think they'd be really good together, but there's a pretty good chance the lineup isn't maximized in that scenario. Edited January 21, 2021 by Thorny 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: That Botterill quote about Eichel needing to be like Crosby that I so detested does have a bit of merit to it, not in the sense that you can expect anyone to elevate like Sid does, but Eichel is sorta imo revealing himself to be a guy that, while can't get away with nobodies, really works well with GOOD players, but players that still have a noticeable draw back to their game. He doesn't need to line up with all-stars, but he's great at adapting to allow the specific exceptional skills of those he's beside, to shine. He unlocked Skinner's 40 goal potential by shooting near the top of the league in volume, allowing Skinner to clean up in front. He understands (hockey sense somehow underrated) how to capitalize on what Reinhart brings in transition. VO looked good with him. Maybe Hall Eichel on the same line is a tad bit of overkill, as weird as it is to say. I think they'd be really good together, but there's a pretty good chance the lineup isn't maximized in that scenario. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or in the case the one (being Taylor Hall). Conceptually it makes sense. Hall has proven that he can carry a team as had Jack. With Staal and Skinner struggling, it makes sense to try to find someway to ignite their games thus Hall with Staal and Skinner w Jack. I'm swapping Skinner for Olofsson in your idea because I remember last season how Olofsson played with Kahun and MoJo for that brief 6 game stretch. The team didn't win but they looked good together. It might have been a Euro thing, but I think it was a style thing. Their games kind of meshed together. I think Cozens straight ahead game would be a nice fit with Olofsson; creating space of VO to use his shot. Add a fast forechecker to that line like Rieder and you might have something. Quote
steveoath Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Thorny said: To the lineup posted above, I'd just switch Staal and Sheahan's wingers 100% agree. Could staal keep up though? 1 Quote
freester Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 Do people think Staal has been effective? So far he doesn’t look like the answer at 2C to me. Quote
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