Taro T Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 Cool. Not remotely surprising. Would be interesting to see what a "max level ELC" is today under the COVID rules. (Still haven't fully read through the MOU; waiting for the revised CBA before fully digging in for the most part.) Quote
dudacek Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 Hot take: Jack Quinn will battle Dylan Cozens for the next decade for the title of best Sabres best 1st-rounder of the past 30 years not named Eichel or Dahlin. (Title currently held by Thomas Vanek) 3 Quote
Scottysabres Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 Ordering 2. For my daughter and future son in law. They look good. Quote
inkman Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 6:05 PM, dudacek said: Hot take: Jack Quinn will battle Dylan Cozens for the next decade for the title of best Sabres best 1st-rounder of the past 30 years not named Eichel or Dahlin. (Title currently held by Thomas Vanek) Expand Can we hold off anointing Dahlin “Eichel Status” until he achieves it? I’m sure this is going to be met with plenty of contrary opinions but I think it’s warranted. He still needs some seasoning. 2 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 6:26 PM, inkman said: Can we hold off anointing Dahlin “Eichel Status” until he achieves it? I’m sure this is going to be met with plenty of contrary opinions but I think it’s warranted. He still needs some seasoning. Expand Quote
Cal Naughton Jr Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 6:26 PM, inkman said: Can we hold off anointing Dahlin “Eichel Status” until he achieves it? I’m sure this is going to be met with plenty of contrary opinions but I think it’s warranted. He still needs some seasoning. Expand I really couldn’t agree more. He needs to make some big strides this season to live up to his pre draft hype. I’ve seen flashes but he needs to put it all together Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 Fun fact. Rasmus Dahlin has played 100% of his NHL minutes as a teenager. 2 Quote
Cal Naughton Jr Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 6:44 PM, LGR4GM said: Fun fact. Rasmus Dahlin has played 100% of his NHL minutes as a teenager. Expand Wow what an interesting fun fact 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Fun fact. The kid who has only played in the nhl as a teen is second for most points by a teenage defender. More fun facts, he's gained 20lbs. More more fun facts, he's the best defender on the Sabres roster. Edited November 16, 2020 by LGR4GM 2 Quote
Cal Naughton Jr Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 6:50 PM, LGR4GM said: Fun fact. The kid who has only played in the nhl as a teen is second for most points by a teenage defender. More fun facts, he's gained 20lbs. More more fun facts, he's the best defender on the Sabres roster. Expand Here’s a fun fact, your 3rd fun “fact” is more of an opinion. But I hope you have more of these, I’m learning an awful lot Quote
dudacek Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 6:26 PM, inkman said: Can we hold off anointing Dahlin “Eichel Status” until he achieves it? I’m sure this is going to be met with plenty of contrary opinions but I think it’s warranted. He still needs some seasoning. Expand That's not what the post was trying to imply. I agree there is a significant gap between what Eichel and Dahlin have accomplished That said, Dahlin did more compared to the field as a teenage defenceman than Jack did as a teenage forward. 2 Quote
Curt Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 7:09 PM, dudacek said: That's not what the post was trying to imply. I agree there is a significant gap between what Eichel and Dahlin have accomplished That said, Dahlin did more compared to the field as a teenage defenceman than Jack did as a teenage forward. Expand The bolded is absolutely true. I feel like Jack got more benefit of doubt his first couple years than Dahlin has gotten from the fans. Quote
inkman Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 6:50 PM, LGR4GM said: Fun fact. The kid who has only played in the nhl as a teen is second for most points by a teenage defender. More fun facts, he's gained 20lbs. More more fun facts, he's the best defender on the Sabres roster. Expand Another fun fact, he’s made some of the worst passes I’ve ever seen any player make. 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 8:01 PM, inkman said: Another fun fact, he’s made some of the worst passes I’ve ever seen any player make. Expand He's also made some of the very best passes you've ever seen. Love ppl shitting on Dahlin, because ik they are wrong. 1 Quote
steveoath Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 Dahlin ranked 21st (or tied 18th) in points last season among ALL defencemen despite playing around 20 games fewer than most. As a teenager. He'll be just fine. 1 Quote
inkman Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 8:44 PM, LGR4GM said: He's also made some of the very best passes you've ever seen. Love ppl shitting on Dahlin, because ik they are wrong. Expand He’s great. I think. So you say. And other stat people. The eye ball test tells me he has a looooooooooooooog way to go. On 11/16/2020 at 9:53 PM, steveoath said: Dahlin ranked 21st (or tied 18th) in points last season among ALL defencemen despite playing around 20 games fewer than most. As a teenager. He'll be just fine. Expand Generational. 🙄 1 Quote
Curt Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 9:53 PM, inkman said: He’s great. I think. So you say. And other stat people. The eye ball test tells me he has a looooooooooooooog way to go. Generational. 🙄 Expand Saying that a 19 year old defenseman has a long way to go is kind of a no brained thing to say. Of course he does. Are there any 19 year old defensemen out there that don’t have a loooooooooong way to go? That’s an honest question by the way. 1 1 Quote
Weave Posted November 16, 2020 Report Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 10:21 PM, Curt said: Saying that a 19 year old defenseman has a long way to go is kind of a no brained thing to say. Of course he does. Are there any 19 year old defensemen out there that don’t have a loooooooooong way to go? That’s an honest question by the way. Expand And that is pretty much Inky's point. The kid has a bunch of developing to do before he should be annointed anything more than best 19 yr old NHL defenseman currently. Ligers reaction to it is like Old Faithful. Or that cauldera in Yellowstone waiting to end human suffering. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted November 17, 2020 Report Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 9:53 PM, inkman said: He’s great. I think. So you say. And other stat people. The eye ball test tells me he has a looooooooooooooog way to go. Generational. 🙄 Expand And some people here thought Eichel wouldn't pan out & was overrated as a prospect until he wasn't. On 11/16/2020 at 10:21 PM, Curt said: Saying that a 19 year old defenseman has a long way to go is kind of a no brained thing to say. Of course he does. Are there any 19 year old defensemen out there that don’t have a loooooooooong way to go? That’s an honest question by the way. Expand He's on track to be with great likelihood Hedman level or perhaps even better. Yes, he needs to improve in several areas. But he likely will and we should start seeing more than simply glimpses of what he'll become. 1 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 17, 2020 Report Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 6:05 PM, dudacek said: Hot take: Jack Quinn will battle Dylan Cozens for the next decade for the title of best Sabres best 1st-rounder of the past 30 years not named Eichel or Dahlin. (Title currently held by Thomas Vanek) Expand No. Cozens will be a lot better. 2 Quote
pi2000 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Posted November 17, 2020 His shooting % was in the 20's last season. That's unsustainable, when it drops to 7-8% he'll score maybe 20g becoming a bust of epic proportions. Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 17, 2020 Report Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 12:27 AM, pi2000 said: His shooting % was in the 20's last season. That's unsustainable, when it drops to 7-8% he'll score maybe 20g becoming a bust of epic proportions. Expand On 11/16/2020 at 11:51 PM, Weave said: And that is pretty much Inky's point. The kid has a bunch of developing to do before he should be annointed anything more than best 19 yr old NHL defenseman currently. Ligers reaction to it is like Old Faithful. Or that cauldera in Yellowstone waiting to end human suffering. Expand You have doubts. I don't. Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 17, 2020 Report Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 12:22 AM, PerreaultForever said: No. Cozens will be a lot better. Expand Oh idk about a lot better. Hmm this is hard because I have more info on Cozens than Quinn but they exist on the same level or tier talent wise. I think right now Cozens is better but Quinn is an anomaly in so many ways. Id be curious to hear @chloewoj take Quote
Weave Posted November 17, 2020 Report Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 12:48 AM, LGR4GM said: You have doubts. I don't. Expand Who said I doubt he gets better? I didn't. But I won't proclaim it until it is actually true. Quote
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