LGR4GM Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) Edited November 3, 2020 by LGR4GM Quote
dudacek Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, WildCard said: Bust? Not being able to play regularly for an average SEL team as he nears his 22nd birthday certainly indicates some serious questions. He put up decent numbers two years back, played on the national team and was always kinda touted as a Swedish Curtis Brown. Be interesting to hear his story. Kid was the 37th overall pick. Quote
Zamboni Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 Hopefully he finds a landing spot. He’s a nice player. I wonder if Sabres can bring him over to play in Rochester. Quote
dudacek Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, Zamboni said: Hopefully he finds a landing spot. He’s a nice player. I wonder if Sabres can bring him over to play in Rochester. It's interesting that they haven't signed him yet and it tells me the organization has serious questions. Quote
tom webster Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 He should print this thread. It might be the last time anyone talks about him as a hockey player. 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 3, 2020 Author Report Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Zamboni said: Hopefully he finds a landing spot. He’s a nice player. I wonder if Sabres can bring him over to play in Rochester. Västervik of Hockeyallsvenskan is who he is signing with. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) I always thought of him as Asplund 2. Now it looks like he maybe farther then ever from being in the NHL, but as we saw with Murray and Jonas Johansson prospects don’t always develop on schedule. Probably to soon to write him off completely, but no looking good. Edited November 3, 2020 by GASabresIUFAN Quote
Taro T Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 He was an absolute beast along the boards in the WJC. Guessing he hasn't been as good at winning those battles against men. Hoping he figures it out, but that isn't encouraging. Quote
inkman Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 I’ve often (ok not that often) wondered how the Sabres scouting staff come ma up with some of these picks. Are they just driving around Sweden looking for pickup hockey games hoping to spy a kid who it lighting it up. Nothing from this kids past screams NHL talent. Quote
Thorner Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, WildCard said: Bust? Only a second round pick so was never likely to make it. But if that's your definition of bust, it appears that may be the case. He hasn't had a good trajectory since being drafted, but you never know. 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I always thought of him as Asplund 2. Now it looks like he maybe farther then ever from being in the NHL, but as we saw with Murray and Jonas Johansson prospects don’t always develop on schedule. Probably to soon to write him off completely, but no looking good. Isn't this one of the guys you had listed as having a reasonable chance to make it, in support of Botterill's poor drafting? 😉 Anyways, this so far looks like one of his poorer picks. Edited November 3, 2020 by Thorny Quote
Thorner Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, inkman said: I’ve often (ok not that often) wondered how the Sabres scouting staff come ma up with some of these picks. Are they just driving around Sweden looking for pickup hockey games hoping to spy a kid who it lighting it up. Nothing from this kids past screams NHL talent. It was Botterill, and the CHL was "DO NOT DRAFT" after round 1 (and hopefully that's done). So I'm gonna say.......yes. That's probably exactly what happened. Edited November 3, 2020 by Thorny Quote
tom webster Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, inkman said: I’ve often (ok not that often) wondered how the Sabres scouting staff come ma up with some of these picks. Are they just driving around Sweden looking for pickup hockey games hoping to spy a kid who it lighting it up. Nothing from this kids past screams NHL talent. A quick google search found two sites that had him ranked in the top 60 so it’s not like he wasn’t a prospect. Again, you can’t judge these things in a vacuum. I’m sure LGRM can tell us how many guys drafted after him are still legitimate prospects. Quote
Curt Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 3 hours ago, inkman said: I’ve often (ok not that often) wondered how the Sabres scouting staff come ma up with some of these picks. Are they just driving around Sweden looking for pickup hockey games hoping to spy a kid who it lighting it up. Nothing from this kids past screams NHL talent. At the time he was drafted, Davidsson was a totally reasonable 2nd round pick. He was not obscure or unknown. Quote
inkman Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Thorny said: It was Botterill, and the CHL was "DO NOT DRAFT" after round 1 (and hopefully that's done). So I'm gonna say.......yes. That's probably exactly what happened. 2 hours ago, tom webster said: A quick google search found two sites that had him ranked in the top 60 so it’s not like he wasn’t a prospect. Again, you can’t judge these things in a vacuum. I’m sure LGRM can tell us how many guys drafted after him are still legitimate prospects. 11 minutes ago, Curt said: At the time he was drafted, Davidsson was a totally reasonable 2nd round pick. He was not obscure or unknown. Ok. Can I get a guy that has more than single digit goals? I’m not asking for these yahoos scoring 90 goals in the Q but some predraft production would be cool. 1 Quote
Curt Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, inkman said: Ok. Can I get a guy that has more than single digit goals? I’m not asking for these yahoos scoring 90 goals in the Q but some predraft production would be cool. At age 17, in his age appropriate junior league, he had 6 goals and 10 pts in 9 games. He also had 5 goals and 9 points playing 45 games in the SHL, a men’s league of roughly equivalent talent level to the AHL, as a 17 year old. Thats pretty good. It’s not easy to play against men as a 17 year old. Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 Stats: https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/240720/marcus-davidsson 2016-17 Age 17/18 Djurgarden 45GP / 9P (0.200P/GP - NHLe 9.5P) (drafted by Buffalo 37th overall) 2017-18 Age 18/19 Djurgarden 39GP / 21P (0.538P/GP - NHLe 25.6P) 2018-19 Age 19/20 Djurgarden 52GP / 27P (0.519P/GP - NHLe 24.7P) 2019-20 Age 20/21 Vaxjo 31GP / 13P (0.419P/GP - NHLe 19.9P) 2020-21 Age 21/22 Vaxjo 12GP / 1P (0.083P/GP - NHLe 3.9P) Thoughts: If he doesn't show immediate improvement at the SHL level, his development arch is showing flame out. A 2nd round pick F on has an 18% chance to play more than 200 NHL games. At age 18, he looked very good, but he's not trending in the right direction at age 22. Quote
Weave Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Thorny said: Isn't this one of the guys you had listed as having a reasonable chance to make it, in support of Botterill's poor drafting? 😉 Well, I think he pretty much had all of them with a reasonable chance of making it, so yeah, this would be one of them. 😀 Quote
IKnowPhysics Posted November 3, 2020 Report Posted November 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Weave said: Well, I think he pretty much had all of them with a reasonable chance of making it, so yeah, this would be one of them. 😀 I don't think I did much Botterill defending, but Davidsson did have a good leap of development the year after the draft, but he didn't sustain that trajectory. Quote
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