Sabre fan Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 12 hours ago, Taro T said: Well, 2 things. 1. When Lucic was talking w/ Calgary as they were evaluating whether to pull the trigger on the Neal trade, he agreed then that he would waive his NTC at the appropriate time specifically for the Seattle draft. Good for him for honoring his verbal commitment. 2. We don't know that Adams has asked Skinner to waive his NMC for the Seattle draft (which is still a couple of months away) nor that Skinner won't waive it to help the team he's stuck with & is stuck with him for another 6 years possibly ice a slightly better team next year than it will without him waiving the NMC. Totally agreed...good points. I think we can agree that Seattle will not take Lucic but who knows maybe they would take a chance on Skinner. I am actually hoping if we get a healthy Jack back next year maybe Skinner and him can click as they did a few years back. heck if Skinner even scores 20 goals playing with Jack that would be a huge help for sure.
Scottysabres Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 6 hours ago, pi2000 said: This is ridiculous. If you watch the replay slowly, Panarin is the aggressor, he jumps on Wilson's back who stands up and receives a face wash and stick rake to the face while trying to push Panarin off of him. They both fall to the ice together, largely because Wilson simply overpowers him... hell, he's practically twice his size. What did Panarin think was going to happen?! Panarin does NOT hit his head on the ice when they fall. At that point Wilson is on top of him and easily could have clubbed him in the head repeatedly but he holds back, and instead gives him a casual facewash and stands back up. Meanwhile Panarin continues to reach for Wilson and tries to stand back up but Wilson pushes him back to the ice. It was dumb for Panarin to engage with Wilson a big powerful guy who can dominate him physically. Wilson held back, he could've really tuned him up, and with Panarin being the aggressor I don't see why a suspension is necessary. EDIT: I see the fine was for his punch on Buchnevich, I'm ok with that, it was unnecessary and reckless. The slow motion video of the assault, yes, assault, on Bosch is the catalyst that entered Panarin into the fray. I mean, Wilson clearly has his stick around the throat while punching the guy in the head, shoulder near the head. There is 0 justification for that, just 0.
Eleven Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 5 hours ago, pi2000 said: Maybe a 170lb Panarin shouldn't engage a 220lb Tom Wilson as being completely overpowered in a scrap could result in injury. If somebody much smaller than you is attacking you, your first instinct is to throw them on the ground. Right. He shouldn't stand up for his teammate. Another hot take from pi. 1
Eleven Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Anyone still want to defend Bettman? He is a joke of a commissioner. For the folks out there who still think this is partly on the players' association: It is Bettman and the league who appointed Parros as director of player safety. And that's why this is on the league. It's a classic case of putting the fox in charge of the henhouse. Edited May 5, 2021 by Eleven 1
LGR4GM Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 6 hours ago, pi2000 said: Maybe a 170lb Panarin shouldn't engage a 220lb Tom Wilson as being completely overpowered in a scrap could result in injury. If somebody much smaller than you is attacking you, your first instinct is to throw them on the ground. You know what is funny about this? If it were the Sabres and 170lb whoever didn't jump in to defend someone being punched in the head on the ice you would start complaining in every thread about how soft that player is and by extension the team. 3 1 1
Sabre fan Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) I see that the two teams play again tonight...on Sportsnet last night they were pretty enraged and openly ran down the NHL for allowing this kind of garbage from a known problem-child. They also talked of the "code" that use to exist whereby if Wilson did that say 10 years ago he'd have to answer to Scott Domi or whoever. Now he clearly fears no one out there and knows he can pretty-much do as he wishes. They had on Anthony Stewart who admitted that players thought differently when they knew they had to answer for their actions. They also said that some are trying to say that it wasn't that bad but how is it then that Parnarin is out for the remainder of the season? He clearly got hurt on the play. And this was not a fight in that sense of the word. Could be an interesting game tonight. Rangers have nothing to play for but pride... https://www.facebook.com/HockeyInstigators/videos/184594830175804 Edited May 5, 2021 by Sabre fan
pi2000 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Eleven said: Right. He shouldn't stand up for his teammate. Another hot take from pi. 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: You know what is funny about this? If it were the Sabres and 170lb whoever didn't jump in to defend someone being punched in the head on the ice you would start complaining in every thread about how soft that player is and by extension the team. I've never advocated for a player to "stand up" for a teammate if he's not physically capable. Cozens is a big boy, he can handle himself. If Bryson went after Wilson? Well thats just stupidity. Panarin wasn't even near Wilson when he punched Buchnevich in the head, it was Strome who jumped in and pulled him off. Panarin was actually 3rd man in on the Wilson/Strome melee. He had no business getting involved.
Buffalonill Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 9 hours ago, pi2000 said: Watch in slow mo starting from 15s in... his head does not touch the ice, he lands on his shoulder. And that makes it right ? How can you honestly Defend this horrific act In a split 2nd it could have been his head thats what you're not understanding he could be dead .
Radar Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Sabre fan said: I see that the two teams play again tonight...on Sportsnet last night they were pretty enraged and openly ran down the NHL for allowing this kind of garbage from a known problem-child. They also talked of the "code" that use to exist whereby if Wilson did that say 10 years ago he'd have to answer to Scott Domi or whoever. Now he clearly fears no one out there and knows he can pretty-much do as he wishes. They had on Anthony Stewart who admitted that players thought differently when they knew they had to answer for their actions. They also said that some are trying to say that it wasn't that bad but how is it then that Parnarin is out for the remainder of the season? He clearly got hurt on the play. And this was not a fight in that sense of the word. Could be an interesting game tonight. Rangers have nothing to play for but pride... https://www.facebook.com/HockeyInstigators/videos/184594830175804 We don't need goon retaliation if the league would do it's job. They allow it because the players association and the league can't police it. These fines are a joke. Long suspensions should impact players financially or they won't do any good. This is a league problem and shouldn't have to depend on players retaliation. 3
PerreaultForever Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 5 hours ago, LGR4GM said: You know what is funny about this? If it were the Sabres and 170lb whoever didn't jump in to defend someone being punched in the head on the ice you would start complaining in every thread about how soft that player is and by extension the team. This is personal narrative pushing nonsense. Are the Sabres soft? Absolutely. Does anyone think Bryson should fight Wilson (for example) absolutely not. But should we have people capable of taking him on? Absolutely. If we do not address the softness issue it will become our achilles if the day comes that we get skilled enough to actually win games and have opposing teams take us seriously. It is far better to build with that element as part of the roster so that the team bonds and players feel secure and get braver.
Buffalonill Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 If there's a bloodbath tonight its all on the NHL hope they're ready to be the laughing stock on ESPN
Thorner Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Let's Go B-Lo said: ESPN has MMA. If there is a brawl it will get more coverage than if it's a clean 2-1 game. Because it's a side-show If in the middle of an MMA fight two women or men put on skates it'd lead off sportscentre, too. Doesn't make it positive or beneficial coverage Edited May 5, 2021 by Thorny
Taro T Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Because of the statement they issued? Guess ownership didn't want to get the league's Lindy Ruff & Tom Golisano treatments, if that's the reason. Strange timing if it isn't.
Taro T Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 If this does move Drury up the food chain, how ironic as he was Panarin to Chris Neil's Wilson.
Buffalonill Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taro T said: If this does move Drury up the food chain, how ironic as he was Panarin to Chris Neil's Wilson. Drury probably snaked his way up.
Trettioåtta Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Drury probably snaked his way up. Did Drury bang your mum or something?
Buffalonill Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, Trettioåtta said: Did Drury bang your mum or something? No hes just an ***** in general i still have hate how he screwed us 1
Hoss Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Taro T said: If this does move Drury up the food chain, how ironic as he was Panarin to Chris Neil's Wilson. It did. 5 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: No hes just an ***** in general i still have hate how he screwed us He didn’t screw us. You’ve got a lot of anger in your posts and very specific contempt. 1 1
Buffalonill Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: It did. He didn’t screw us. You’ve got a lot of anger in your posts and very specific contempt. Please explain how he didn't screw us ?
Hoss Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalonill said: Please explain how he didn't screw us ? He left as a free agent as many players do. By all accounts he had interest in returning and the team failed to get it done. 1
Taro T Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hoss said: It did. He didn’t screw us. You’ve got a lot of anger in your posts and very specific contempt. Interesting. Really hope he falls flat on his face. Not because of anything to do w/ 7/1/7, but rather because he didn't have any interest in the Sabres GM job & want nearly all Eastern Conference GM's outside of Buffalo to fail. 2
Buffalonill Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hoss said: He left as a free agent as many players do. By all accounts he had interest in returning and the team failed to get it done. You can believe that if you want the dude played us he lied and the one that wanted to stay we let him walk right out the door 1
Scottysabres Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 Information now coming out the owner fired 5hem for trying to distance themselves from the statement. If so, I have much respect for the Rangers owner.
Eleven Posted May 5, 2021 Report Posted May 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Information now coming out the owner fired 5hem for trying to distance themselves from the statement. If so, I have much respect for the Rangers owner. All I've read is that they were fired because the team sux, but I don't know why they wouldn't just wait a few days if that is the case. 1
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