Should the Sabres Claim Tyler Johnson from Waivers?

[Brawndo]

No one wanted him 

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

No one wanted him 

I think that contract is just a little too long and little too rich. 3.75mil for 3 years, sure but 5mil for 4... nope. 

[tom webster]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I think that contract is just a little too long and little too rich. 3.75mil for 3 years, sure but 5mil for 4... nope. 

Two of the four years are actually $3.75 but I agree, a little too much for a guy that has struggled lately.

[LGR4GM]

5 minutes ago, tom webster said:

Two of the four years are actually $3.75 but I agree, a little too much for a guy that has struggled lately.

in cash but the cap is the issue. They have to pay Jokiharju and Dahlin next offseason and I don't think it will be cheap. 

[Taro T]

35 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

Surprising absolutely nobody.

[Brawndo]

 

[aristocrat]

Nobody offer sheeted kucherov when he got the small deal but now they all want to weaken them?

[apuszczalowski]

7 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Nobody offer sheeted kucherov when he got the small deal but now they all want to weaken them?

I think its because with the current cap crunch and no increase, teams don't have as much cap room to just take the bad contract so they want a sweetner if they are going to do a favour for them. plus theres the whole "don't want to be viewed as a bad guy' trying to steal someone with an offer sheet (which is also going to involve giving up picks after the player agrees to sign a deal with you)

[kas23]

I always find it interesting that an unwritten rule exists between organizations not to offer sheet players. In effect, this action controls player contract amounts. In any other industry, this would be called collusion and would be illegal. Given that this mechanism was formally agreed upon in the constructs of the CBA, how can it be that the NHLPA turns a blind eye to this practice?

 

I would even suspect that decoys are orchestrated by organizations every once in a while to keep this from being illegal. The Aho offer sheet last year was a joke and easily matched. 

[Thorner]

12 hours ago, IKnowPhysics said:

For the salary and term, we can find better players through trade and FA.

Adams, probably

Edited October 10, 2020 by Thorny

[Thorner]

7 hours ago, Curt said:

The answer would be because you want Tyler Johnson on your hockey team.

You are “helping them out” by taking a pretty good hockey player from them.

Yup, in my opinion you should NEVER turn down a deal with the primary reason being "to not help a rival". Sure, maybe you do. But if you truly do believe you are improving your team, you are still improving relative to the other 29 teams. If you pass up the opportunity, you spare yourself the risk of potentially a net-loss to that one team you traded with, but your net-result vs the other 29 is worse off than it could have been if you didn't balk. 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Thorny

[inkman]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

Surprising absolutely nobody.

Wrong

 

 

[Thorner]

5 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

The Buffalo Sabres do not need Tyler Johnson.

This touches on such a key point. Passing up a free (by asset cost, obviously) TJ on waivers makes my skin crawl - he'd absolutely positively benefit our roster. The gal we have to pass up on a player that good relative to what we have means Adams bringing in an inferior player (at least by value) than TJ is straight-up an unacceptable result, now. A gamble that needs to pay off, like others have said. 

5 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

It was an ill-executed Kovalchuk reference.

Disagree

Edited October 10, 2020 by Thorny

[Taro T]

4 minutes ago, inkman said:

Wrong

 

 

WTF is Brayden T. Krebbs J. Wilson?  If he's Jeremy White's Secret Sabre Sauce, it would explain soooo much.

[inkman]

Just now, Taro T said:

WTF is Brayden T. Krebbs J. Wilson?  If he's Jeremy White's Secret Sabre Sauce, it would explain soooo much.

I don't want anyone secret Sabres sauce unless it Enzo's of course. 

[Thorner]

Just now, Taro T said:

WTF is Brayden T. Krebbs J. Wilson?  If he's Jeremy White's Secret Sabre Sauce, it would explain soooo much.

SOYLENT GREEN

SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!

[Taro T]

Just now, inkman said:

I don't want anyone secret Sabres sauce unless it Enzo's of course. 

Sheesh, was sure you'd knock that set up out of the park rather than simply hit a double.

[inkman]

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

Sheesh, was sure you'd knock that set up out of the park rather than simply hit a double.

Slowing down in my old age 

[klos1963]

18 hours ago, SyrSabreFan said:

Yes and let Seattle take him in the expansion draft

Why would Seattle take him and why would we only want him for 1 season. What's the point of that? What if Seattle doesn't take him, we have another bloated contract for a player past his prime.

 

[LTS]

It was a crap shoot.  But the pressure is clearly on Johnson now to be more accepting of a potential trade or he's going to be playing in the AHL (if they even play).  Sure the Lightning don't want to keep his cap hit on the books but I bet Johnson gives in.

So, now the question is.. what does Tampa have to give up to move him?  Where would he agree to go?

Tampa was always going to be in this position.. and they still have not signed Cirelli, Cernak, and Sergachev.. 3 players that aren't all going to fit under what appears to be about $4M in cap space.

Point and Killorn are the only decent level salaries that are freely movable... everyone else has control.  It's going to be interesting to see what happens.

[Thorner]

Would have much rather had him than Eakin. 

[nfreeman]

Well, I sure like Hall for 1 season at $8MM at age 29 in a contract year more than TJ at age 30 for 4 years x $5MM.

Well done, Sabres.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

I voted just now and I hope it's not too late.

No, by the way.

[Gabrielor]

Surefire pass now. 

Pre-Hall, I think I still would've gone no. The Lightning just won the cup, they can stop acting like the league will rush to help them out of their cap problems.