Thorner Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 Fast still has not signed, correct? Quote
North Buffalo Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 Was away busy at work 4 CT scans in succession... last one scary guy had and Aortic dissection from mid chest down through abdomen that went into a bi-femoral aneurysms. Quote
apuszczalowski Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:27 PM, Thorny said: Fast still has not signed, correct? Expand According to some above he has, in Nashville I believe Quote
Weave Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:27 PM, North Buffalo said: Was away busy at work 4 CT scans in succession... last one scary guy had and Aortic dissection from mid chest down through abdomen that went into a bi-femoral aneurysms. Expand How the hell do you survive that long enough to get a CT scan? Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:28 PM, Weave said: How the hell do you survive that long enough to get a CT scan? Expand was going to ask the same thing. Unless you are in the hospital getting scanned as it happens. Quote
Radar Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 I'm becoming convinced that we have to make trades if we are going to get anything we need. Free agency is pretty much drying up it appears. Maybe we're in running for Tofoli or Hall but I don't have much faith in that. Quote
#freejame Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 If Larsson is as valuable as everyone says he is why is it I haven’t seen his name around anywhere? Shouldn’t teams be all over him? 1 Quote
Thorner Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:44 PM, #freejame said: If Larsson is as valuable as everyone says he is why is it I haven’t seen his name around anywhere? Shouldn’t teams be all over him? Expand Even Sabres fans don't seem to be aware of his value, so it doesn't surprise me outsiders don't. His value is buried under an Everest of D usage. Quote
North Buffalo Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) On 10/9/2020 at 7:29 PM, LGR4GM said: was going to ask the same thing. Unless you are in the hospital getting scanned as it happens. Expand No idea guy had to be living with it for a while for it to get that bad.... who the hell knows On 10/9/2020 at 7:28 PM, Weave said: How the hell do you survive that long enough to get a CT scan? Expand Talked a tech more knowledgeable than me... it can be managed with blood thinners til it can be fixed Edited October 9, 2020 by North Buffalo Quote
Thorner Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 Verhaeghe and Wennberg is a solid haul for division rival Florida today Quote
#freejame Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:45 PM, Thorny said: Even Sabres fans don't seem to be aware of his value, so it doesn't surprise me outsiders don't. His value is buried under an Everest of D usage. Expand But every other team but Buffalo using analytics. Shouldn’t they be seeing this? Quote
Cityo'Rasmii Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:49 PM, #freejame said: But every other team but Buffalo using analytics. Shouldn’t they be seeing this? Expand But Mandarin Quote
Thorner Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) On 10/9/2020 at 7:49 PM, #freejame said: But every other team but Buffalo using analytics. Shouldn’t they be seeing this? Expand I'm sure he'll find a home and he'll make them very happy if they actually have a roster capable of maximizing what he allows for. There are plenty of good players who have no signed Edited October 9, 2020 by Thorny Quote
Radar Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 I've never been big on using free agency but I think we've been put in a place where we needed to make one significant hit this year. We are at this point worst on paper than last season and that's factoring in the Stall deal. Quote
Thorner Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 PS there is plenty of Larsson chatter on twitter just not from the blue checks Quote
fiftyone Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:45 PM, Thorny said: Even Sabres fans don't seem to be aware of his value, so it doesn't surprise me outsiders don't. His value is buried under an Everest of D usage. Expand I suppose that we should allow for the possibility that he actually isn't as valuable in the opinion of the professional talent evaluators as he is by a few on this board though, no? 1 Quote
Thorner Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) On 10/9/2020 at 7:56 PM, fiftyone said: I suppose that we should allow for the possibility that he actually isn't as valuable in the opinion of the professional talent evaluators as he is by a few on this board though, no? Expand It's not up to me to decide what you or anyone else should "allow" for. I don't feel much inclination to reign in my personal opinion of Larsson because I'm not a professional talent evaluator Larsson absolutely is underrated by some "professional talent evaluators, imo. My position already allowed for that. That he's underrated has always been central to my view, ie, he's not as valuable in the eyes of the people you mentioned as I think he should be. Edited October 9, 2020 by Thorny Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 Larsson is needed by us, I hope he comes back. 3 Quote
Thorner Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 8:01 PM, LGR4GM said: Larsson is needed by us, I hope he comes back. Expand Once we get into relative value, arguing for him becomes even easier. Quote
SDS Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:45 PM, Thorny said: Even Sabres fans don't seem to be aware of his value, so it doesn't surprise me outsiders don't. His value is buried under an Everest of D usage. Expand But this value was value to a team who has lacked talent and perennially under performed year after year. Maybe he’s great for a bad team but Does his value hold for a better team? Quote
BuffalOhio Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:14 PM, tom webster said: Looks like they lost Fast. They thought they had him. Expand Well that was quick! 1 Quote
Thorner Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) On 10/9/2020 at 8:04 PM, SDS said: But this value was value to a team who has lacked talent and perennially under performed year after year. Maybe he’s great for a bad team but Does his value hold for a better team? Expand Generally players that are great on bad teams find the transition to good teams easier, where they'll actually have support, than players who were useful on a good team being moved to a new team, that asks more from them. More from them than they are capable of. We've given the league a pretty good idea of how much Larsson can be stretched defensively and not break. Look at the numbers. He didn't break. Edited October 9, 2020 by Thorny 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 8:05 PM, BuffalOhio said: Well that was quick! Expand I think he's still under contract for LA... 1 1 Quote
SDS Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 8:07 PM, Thorny said: Generally players that are great on bad teams find the transition to good teams easier, where they'll actually have support, than players who were useful on a good team being moved to a new team, that asks more from them. More from them than they are capable of. We've given the league a pretty good idea of how much Larsson can be stretched defensively and not break. Look at the numbers. He didn't break. Expand But in Buffalo if he was routinely use to shut down the first line, and that was his value to us, is that his value to a better team? Maybe they have better players in that role and thus his value to them is less. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 9, 2020 Report Posted October 9, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:27 PM, Thorny said: Fast still has not signed, correct? Expand I haven't seen a source that makes his signing in Nash official as of yet. 1 Quote
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