Sabres Move Up to 34, Select John Jason Peterka

[WildCard]

Just now, dudacek said:

Two competitive productive forwards who go both ways and can drive offence.

Positive trend here for me.

Interesting trend for sure. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

I really like this pick.  I don’t mind losing a 4th to move up and get him.  Had a first rd grade in my cheat sheet.  

Then again we said the same thing when we moved up for Asplund.

[Thorner]

12 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Two competitive productive forwards who go both ways and can drive offence.

Positive trend here for me.

Both who are specifically productive in a goal scoring sense and both who specifically play RW I'm sorry man but leaving out details doesn't make it less of a clear need/type based pick.

We've assuredly drafted two players who would ideally play the same role - that's their projection. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by Thorny

[LGR4GM]

I probably would have taken Mysak there but I get the pick of JJP. He has some ties to Krueger in a 7 degress of Kevin Bacon kind of way. I will note that Stutzle who was the biggest German prospect this draft, grew up in the Manheim system so jumping from the younger team to the older team is straightforward. JJP went from a czech league to the DEL and that is a bit more of a challenge. He did stick with his club all year and that is something to note. Idk if I would have traded up to do this but a 4th round pick is kinda whatever so there's a shot JJP is a top 6 forward might as well get him. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

Both who are specifically productive in a goal scoring sense and both who specifically play RW I'm sorry man but leaving out details doesn't make it less of a clear need/type based pick.

Considering that Pekar was our only RW in the system beside Thompson, is it really a surprise we drafted 2 RWs.

[Thorner]

 

 

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Considering that Pekar was our only RW in the system beside Thompson, is it really a surprise we drafted 2 RWs.

Nope, and see above. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by Thorny

[dudacek]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

 

 

Nope, and see above. 

Sorry, but what does Kevin know about analytics, specifically the analytics the Sabres use?

[GASabresIUFAN]

2 minutes ago, Thorny said:

 

 

Nope, and see above. 

I’ve argued in BPA discussions in the past that organizational need was a factor on many teams lists.  Obviously our new GM thinks that organizational need is a very important factor indeed.

[bob_sauve28]

A Kruger pick? He might know the kid? 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Just now, bob_sauve28 said:

A Kruger pick? He might know the kid? 

Quite possibly.  Honestly he was near the top of my remaining players so I’m glad he’s a Sabres.

[dudacek]

I'm out.

Fixed narratives borne from limited information are too frustrating to debate.

Have fun with that.

[inkman]

26 minutes ago, Thorny said:

There's a theme, they are definitely incorporating need. Good to get an idea for draft strategy. 

Pick withstanding, how do you draft for need when these players are 2-5 years away from helping?

[inkman]

11 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Considering that Pekar was our only RW in the system beside Thompson, is it really a surprise we drafted 2 RWs.

So if Pekar and Thompson both graduate to the NHL, then we'll only have RW in out development system?  So confusing.  You can't draft for need if players are half a decade away from contributing.

[LGR4GM]

 

[PerreaultForever]

36 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Quinn appeared to be for need, JPP seems like BPA

Probably but RW seems to be the targeted need. Which it is, but I don't want to wait another 3 years to see 

[jsb]

3 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Probably but RW seems to be the targeted need. Which it is, but I don't want to wait another 3 years to see 

It also could be they thought they were the best forwards available and took them. We'll find out eventually, hopefully they'll be right.

[mphs mike]

1 hour ago, WildCard said:

Quinn appeared to be for need, JPP seems like BPA

It seems to me the Sabres thought more of him than the typical "BPA" because they moved up, however slightly, to draft him. 

[nfreeman]

I would guess that drafting for need was a factor in the sense that the Sabres needed to bolster their very limited stable of forward prospects as opposed to D or G.

However, within the group of good forwards that was available to them, I would guess that they chose BPA.  As others have noted, due to the development timeline, it would be nuts for them to draft RWs based on their current roster needs.

[SDS]

John Jacob jingle Heimer Schmidt his name is my name too. 

[Cascade Youth]

They literally have needs all up and down the roster except for 1C and 1D.  Every pick is a "need."

[nucci]

58 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Down to 5 picks. 

So we draft for need now

well, we need a lot

[In The Buff]

55 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2020/05/03/john-jason-peterka-scouting-report/

 

Great video on him. Anyone wanting to know more about him & how his performance in the DEL league & tournaments correlates to the other leagues should watch this imo

Thanks for sharing!

[inkman]

22 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Probably but RW seems to be the targeted need. Which it is, but I don't want to wait another 3 years to see 

Right.  Which is why NHL GMs have always used free agency and trades to shape rosters and fulfil needs.  

[Norcal]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

 

https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2020/05/03/john-jason-peterka-scouting-report/

 

That was a good video. 

[Gabrielor]

Good pick, and cool with the trade-up to secure.