Sabres Acquire Center Eric Staal from Wild for Marcus Johansson

[LGR4GM]

4 minutes ago, dudacek said:

He's likely to retire at the end of the contract. Guerin was committed to changing the dressing room of a stagnant team. Staal was said to be very comfortable and he certainly had a voice. And mayber they have a Dumba for a centre (Monahan?) deal pending.

Meanwhile, what's this chatter about maybe him retiring instead of reporting? Anything to it, or just typical "we can't have nice things" sabre doom and gloom?

I think it is doom and gloom. Adams already talked to him and they know eachother. 

[bob_sauve28]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

Awesome!

Can't stand Staal, but he fits the need ideally as a 1-2 year 2C.

This is great 

 

👍 

[bob_sauve28]

59 minutes ago, Taro T said:

What 1 single move in a vacuum would make the Sabres a playoff team?

A goaltender. I don’t trust Carter Hutton’s eyes. 

1 hour ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

Two years ago, I would have traded 2 firsts for him after the 10 game winning streak.  Aside from the Skinner trade, which was a gift, Botterill didn't do half as well his entire tenure on the trade front.

Dare I say it: IMHO, this greatly improves the chances that Larry and Zemgus stay and we can play 3 lines at will.

Getting Joki was a good move

[Taro T]

2 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

A goaltender. I don’t trust Carter Hutton’s eyes. 

Getting Joki was a good move

The right goalie MIGHT have, but in & of itself that's debatable at best.

[Marvin]

3 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Getting Joki was a good move

I stand corrected.

[bob_sauve28]

Just now, Taro T said:

The right goalie MIGHT have, but in & of itself that's debatable at best.

He has to sign a goalie that can play if Hutton can’t, period. Aside from that I don’t know what to do, spend a lot and have three goalies? That doesn’t sound good. Waive Hutton? 

 

 

[Taro T]

2 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

I stand corrected.

Kahun could pan out as well.

That's still a fairly nonsubstantial total haul.

[bob_sauve28]

Just now, Taro T said:

Kahun could pan out as well.

That's still a fairly nonsubstantial total haul.

Who knows Tage Thompson might be a beast, too. Lol 

[Taro T]

Just now, bob_sauve28 said:

He has to sign a goalie that can play if Hutton can’t, period. Aside from that I don’t know what to do, spend a lot and have three goalies? That doesn’t sound good. Waive Hutton? 

 

 

Adams definitely has to address goaltending.  Just not sure I'd agree that move alone would put them in the playoffs.

1 minute ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Who knows Tage Thompson might be a beast, too. Lol 

Even if Thompson & Johnson BOTH reach their ceilings, the O'Reilly trade was a disaster.

[bob_sauve28]

2 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Adams definitely has to address goaltending.  Just not sure I'd agree that move alone would put them in the playoffs.

Even if Thompson & Johnson BOTH reach their ceilings, the O'Reilly trade was a disaster.

Not sure if it would have in a full season, but no doubt, we would have been in this years playoffs if Carter Hutton’s eyes didn’t go to the bad. We lost a lot of points because of that. 

And yes, the ROR trade was still a disaster 

[Drag0nDan]

11 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

A goaltender. I don’t trust Carter Hutton’s eyes. 

Getting Joki was a good move

even kahun wasn't a bad move.  Dumped rodrigues and sheary and got back a player with term who may be better than either.

[Taro T]

Just now, bob_sauve28 said:

Not sure if it would have in a full season, but no doubt, we would have been in this years playoffs if Carter Hutton’s eyes didn’t go to the bad. We lost a lot of points because of that. 

True, but was talking a real playoff qualifier, not this version that the Sabres very well could've qualified for if everything g shutdown 1 day later.

[dudacek]

This move just continues to sit so well with me

We now have a viable short-term 2C option.

But we also have all of our "good" trade chips still available AND the flexibility of $35 million in cap space to make another significant move .

 

[Taro T]

3 minutes ago, dudacek said:

This move just continues to sit so well with me

We now have a viable short-term 2C option.

But we also have all of our "good" trade chips still available AND the flexibility of $35 million in cap space to make another significant move .

 

Yeah, only losing what was expected to be a throw in piece to address 2C is an underrated point.

[Curt]

13 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Who knows Tage Thompson might be a beast, too. Lol 

Difference is that Kahun has already played at a level of good middle 6 winger.

[Curt]

Just now, Taro T said:

Yeah, only losing what was expected to be a throw in piece to address 2C is an underrated point.

That’s exactly why it’s such a good move.  It was cheap.  It doesn’t at all hamper the ability to make other moves.

[Drag0nDan]

15 minutes ago, Curt said:

That’s exactly why it’s such a good move.  It was cheap.  It doesn’t at all hamper the ability to make other moves.

Cheap and somehow his salary is less... this trade legit makes no sense.  I truly don't understand.

[GASabresIUFAN]

This a friggin' awesome move.  A real no.2 C, a mentor for Jack, a Cup winner and still a legit player and we pick up cap room to boot.  He will also help develop Cozens and Mitts and even Lazar.  This move also buys time for Cozens and Mitts to develop more without the pressure of carrying a significant piece of the team.

I've been dumping on the Adams hiring, but this is truly a very smart value move. What a great first acquisition for our rookie GM.  This really gives me hope.  Wow.  I'm impressed.

 

[Curt]

4 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said:

Cheap and somehow his salary is less... this trade legit makes no sense.  I truly don't understand.

Well, Minny’s GM is the green Bill Guerin.  You know what they say about rookie GMs always getting raked over the coals by the leagues’ other GMs.  I guess it’s true.

[Huckleberry]

VO - Eichel - Samson

Skinner  - Staal - 8OA holtz / cozens

Kahun - 8OA lundell/rossi / cozens- Tage

Casey   -   Asplund -  Okposo

Guess that could be our team as of now, would really like Larsson back as 4C but he'll get nice offers elsewhere I'm sure.  If he wanted to be back he would have signed already.

Maybe his next move is Ristolainen straight up for monahan 😄

[Shootica]

There is literally no downside to this trade. None.  I'm amazed.

Kevyn Adams, you have my attention.

[LGR4GM]

10 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said:

Cheap and somehow his salary is less... this trade legit makes no sense.  I truly don't understand.

Right!?!?

 

1 minute ago, Shootica said:

There is literally no downside to this trade. None.  I'm amazed.

Kevyn Adams, you have my attention.

[French Collection]

Carter Hutton is probably over at Staal’s place in Thunder Bay having a beer and giving him the goods on RK and other stuff.

[GASabresIUFAN]

21 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

VO - Eichel - Samson

Skinner  - Staal - 8OA holtz / cozens

Kahun - 8OA lundell/rossi / cozens- Tage

Casey   -   Asplund -  Okposo

Guess that could be our team as of now, would really like Larsson back as 4C but he'll get nice offers elsewhere I'm sure.  If he wanted to be back he would have signed already.

Maybe his next move is Ristolainen straight up for monahan 😄

I would think it looks more like this

Skinner Jack Samson

VO Staal Kahun

Mitts Cozens Tage

Asplund Lazar KO

Edited September 17, 2020 by GASabresIUFAN

[SHAAAUGHT!!!]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I would thing it looks more like this

Skinner Jack Samson

VO Staal Kahun

Mitts Cozens Tage

Asplund Lazar KO

This is an impressive first move.  I have a similar lineup: 

VO - Eichel - Samson

Skinner - Staal - TBD

Kahun - Cozens/Casey - Tage

Lazar - Larson/Girgs - Okposo

My guess is they are looking for a top 4 winger in free agency if they can't make another trade.