LGR4GM Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: He's likely to retire at the end of the contract. Guerin was committed to changing the dressing room of a stagnant team. Staal was said to be very comfortable and he certainly had a voice. And mayber they have a Dumba for a centre (Monahan?) deal pending. Meanwhile, what's this chatter about maybe him retiring instead of reporting? Anything to it, or just typical "we can't have nice things" sabre doom and gloom? I think it is doom and gloom. Adams already talked to him and they know eachother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Awesome! Can't stand Staal, but he fits the need ideally as a 1-2 year 2C. This is great 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 59 minutes ago, Taro T said: What 1 single move in a vacuum would make the Sabres a playoff team? A goaltender. I don’t trust Carter Hutton’s eyes. 1 hour ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: Two years ago, I would have traded 2 firsts for him after the 10 game winning streak. Aside from the Skinner trade, which was a gift, Botterill didn't do half as well his entire tenure on the trade front. Dare I say it: IMHO, this greatly improves the chances that Larry and Zemgus stay and we can play 3 lines at will. Getting Joki was a good move 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: A goaltender. I don’t trust Carter Hutton’s eyes. Getting Joki was a good move The right goalie MIGHT have, but in & of itself that's debatable at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Getting Joki was a good move I stand corrected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Taro T said: The right goalie MIGHT have, but in & of itself that's debatable at best. He has to sign a goalie that can play if Hutton can’t, period. Aside from that I don’t know what to do, spend a lot and have three goalies? That doesn’t sound good. Waive Hutton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: I stand corrected. Kahun could pan out as well. That's still a fairly nonsubstantial total haul. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, Taro T said: Kahun could pan out as well. That's still a fairly nonsubstantial total haul. Who knows Tage Thompson might be a beast, too. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, bob_sauve28 said: He has to sign a goalie that can play if Hutton can’t, period. Aside from that I don’t know what to do, spend a lot and have three goalies? That doesn’t sound good. Waive Hutton? Adams definitely has to address goaltending. Just not sure I'd agree that move alone would put them in the playoffs. 1 minute ago, bob_sauve28 said: Who knows Tage Thompson might be a beast, too. Lol Even if Thompson & Johnson BOTH reach their ceilings, the O'Reilly trade was a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Adams definitely has to address goaltending. Just not sure I'd agree that move alone would put them in the playoffs. Even if Thompson & Johnson BOTH reach their ceilings, the O'Reilly trade was a disaster. Not sure if it would have in a full season, but no doubt, we would have been in this years playoffs if Carter Hutton’s eyes didn’t go to the bad. We lost a lot of points because of that. And yes, the ROR trade was still a disaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: A goaltender. I don’t trust Carter Hutton’s eyes. Getting Joki was a good move even kahun wasn't a bad move. Dumped rodrigues and sheary and got back a player with term who may be better than either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Just now, bob_sauve28 said: Not sure if it would have in a full season, but no doubt, we would have been in this years playoffs if Carter Hutton’s eyes didn’t go to the bad. We lost a lot of points because of that. True, but was talking a real playoff qualifier, not this version that the Sabres very well could've qualified for if everything g shutdown 1 day later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dudacek Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 This move just continues to sit so well with me We now have a viable short-term 2C option. But we also have all of our "good" trade chips still available AND the flexibility of $35 million in cap space to make another significant move . 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, dudacek said: This move just continues to sit so well with me We now have a viable short-term 2C option. But we also have all of our "good" trade chips still available AND the flexibility of $35 million in cap space to make another significant move . Yeah, only losing what was expected to be a throw in piece to address 2C is an underrated point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said: Who knows Tage Thompson might be a beast, too. Lol Difference is that Kahun has already played at a level of good middle 6 winger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, Taro T said: Yeah, only losing what was expected to be a throw in piece to address 2C is an underrated point. That’s exactly why it’s such a good move. It was cheap. It doesn’t at all hamper the ability to make other moves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Curt said: That’s exactly why it’s such a good move. It was cheap. It doesn’t at all hamper the ability to make other moves. Cheap and somehow his salary is less... this trade legit makes no sense. I truly don't understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 This a friggin' awesome move. A real no.2 C, a mentor for Jack, a Cup winner and still a legit player and we pick up cap room to boot. He will also help develop Cozens and Mitts and even Lazar. This move also buys time for Cozens and Mitts to develop more without the pressure of carrying a significant piece of the team. I've been dumping on the Adams hiring, but this is truly a very smart value move. What a great first acquisition for our rookie GM. This really gives me hope. Wow. I'm impressed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said: Cheap and somehow his salary is less... this trade legit makes no sense. I truly don't understand. Well, Minny’s GM is the green Bill Guerin. You know what they say about rookie GMs always getting raked over the coals by the leagues’ other GMs. I guess it’s true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 VO - Eichel - Samson Skinner - Staal - 8OA holtz / cozens Kahun - 8OA lundell/rossi / cozens- Tage Casey - Asplund - Okposo Guess that could be our team as of now, would really like Larsson back as 4C but he'll get nice offers elsewhere I'm sure. If he wanted to be back he would have signed already. Maybe his next move is Ristolainen straight up for monahan 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootica Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 There is literally no downside to this trade. None. I'm amazed. Kevyn Adams, you have my attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said: Cheap and somehow his salary is less... this trade legit makes no sense. I truly don't understand. Right!?!? 1 minute ago, Shootica said: There is literally no downside to this trade. None. I'm amazed. Kevyn Adams, you have my attention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Carter Hutton is probably over at Staal’s place in Thunder Bay having a beer and giving him the goods on RK and other stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: VO - Eichel - Samson Skinner - Staal - 8OA holtz / cozens Kahun - 8OA lundell/rossi / cozens- Tage Casey - Asplund - Okposo Guess that could be our team as of now, would really like Larsson back as 4C but he'll get nice offers elsewhere I'm sure. If he wanted to be back he would have signed already. Maybe his next move is Ristolainen straight up for monahan 😄 I would think it looks more like this Skinner Jack Samson VO Staal Kahun Mitts Cozens Tage Asplund Lazar KO Edited September 17, 2020 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHAAAUGHT!!! Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I would thing it looks more like this Skinner Jack Samson VO Staal Kahun Mitts Cozens Tage Asplund Lazar KO This is an impressive first move. I have a similar lineup: VO - Eichel - Samson Skinner - Staal - TBD Kahun - Cozens/Casey - Tage Lazar - Larson/Girgs - Okposo My guess is they are looking for a top 4 winger in free agency if they can't make another trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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