LGR4GM Posted October 29, 2020 Report Posted October 29, 2020 23 hours ago, Weave said: I’m hoping that means crowds will be light on election day. I won’t get home until after 6 and I sure won’t want another 30-40-90 minutes in line after that. You might have a 90 minutes wait. Voter turnout to this point is historic. Vote like your country depends on it. 1
etiennep99 Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 Not to start another fight...the election results are unsettling so far, but at least I can say that I'm not feeling quite so alone this morning seeing that only one county in WNY voted for Biden(Monroe). Even Erie county seems to have voted for Trump. So this BB doesn't seem representative of WNY. Islander's country seems to be split (Nassau and Suffolk voting for Trump). Rangers country, well, there's no saving NYC; enough already, make them their own state. Just saying. 🤫
etiennep99 Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 Troll? Facts get under your skin, eh?
Eleven Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Weave said: This won’t end well..... This won't end.
SABRES 0311 Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 Hate to admit it but I think Biden wins in the end. Whenever that is.
LGR4GM Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, etiennep99 said: Not to start another fight...the election results are unsettling so far, but at least I can say that I'm not feeling quite so alone this morning seeing that only one county in WNY voted for Biden(Monroe). Even Erie county seems to have voted for Trump. So this BB doesn't seem representative of WNY. Islander's country seems to be split (Nassau and Suffolk voting for Trump). Rangers country, well, there's no saving NYC; enough already, make them their own state. Just saying. 🤫 Premature. Also outside of Buffalo which is leaning Trump currently, every other major metro area in the state went for Biden. Land doesn't vote, ppl do.
LTS Posted November 4, 2020 Author Report Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, etiennep99 said: Not to start another fight...the election results are unsettling so far, but at least I can say that I'm not feeling quite so alone this morning seeing that only one county in WNY voted for Biden(Monroe). Even Erie county seems to have voted for Trump. So this BB doesn't seem representative of WNY. Islander's country seems to be split (Nassau and Suffolk voting for Trump). Rangers country, well, there's no saving NYC; enough already, make them their own state. Just saying. 🤫 This is a particularly narrow take. You are associating the majority vote getter with the county being 100% for that candidate. 50.1-49.9 accomplishes a majority without there being a clear split. In the case of Erie County it appears to be ~204k to ~174k... a whopping 30k votes of separation.
Weave Posted November 4, 2020 Report Posted November 4, 2020 7 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Hate to admit it but I think Biden wins in the end. Whenever that is. Nevada and recounts seem to be all that is remaining. Man is this close. I have to say, the only way I could stomach another 4 yrs of Trump is with a D majority in the Senate. With an R majority Senate likely, Biden has to come out on top or the next 4 yrs will be even more insufferable than the first. I'm really disappointed that the Senate didn't change hands. I really wanted to see the GOP punished for falling in line behind Trump. I needed that party get a message sent to them so they never make the mistake again. That clearly didn't happen here.
PerreaultForever Posted November 5, 2020 Report Posted November 5, 2020 There's always been an urban rural divide but it's getting pretty extreme and dug in isn't it? 1
Curt Posted November 5, 2020 Report Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: There's always been an urban rural divide but it's getting pretty extreme and dug in isn't it? I think it’s the same really. Has it actually gotten more extreme? Does the same divide exist in Canada?
Eleven Posted November 5, 2020 Report Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Curt said: I think it’s the same really. Has it actually gotten more extreme? Does the same divide exist in Canada? The same divide exists everywhere and has for about forever. It's less than 100 years since Europe had serfs. (Source: https://www.amazon.com/Russia-1000-Year-Chronicle-Wild-East/dp/1468305018 ; see also Bertolt Brecht's Caucasian Chalk Circle). Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if some nations that consider themselves to be European still have them. Whether rural people vote in their own best interests, or in the best interests of their descendants, is another question. They purposely are left uneducated and in fear that their meager economy will disappear if the group that actually wants to help them wins. This is not new, nor is it particularly American (the sources I posted above are Eurasian). Collin Peterson (D-MN) was defeated last night. Now, I am not sorry to see a Boomer who spent WAY TOO LONG (30 years) in Congress go, but the fact is, he was the chair of the Congressional Ag Committee for a long time. Goodbye to that voice; he's been replaced by another career politician, who may as well be a Boomer (1965) and who has no command whatsoever of the international issues that matter to her district and who won't chair anything. She'll screw up the farmers, all right. Peterson wasn't even a true Dem; he was DFL (Democrat-Farm-Labor), which is a Minnesota-only thing as far as I know. Edited November 5, 2020 by Eleven
LGR4GM Posted November 5, 2020 Report Posted November 5, 2020 Baby Boomers need to retire. The ones in government are trying to cling to a world that no longer exists.
LTS Posted November 5, 2020 Author Report Posted November 5, 2020 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Baby Boomers need to retire. The ones in government are trying to cling to a world that no longer exists. Who keeps electing them?
Weave Posted November 5, 2020 Report Posted November 5, 2020 6 hours ago, LTS said: Who keeps electing them? More boomers.
SwampD Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 1965 is most definitely not a boomer. Boomer hate,… that's cute. Hate the idea, not who it comes from.
LGR4GM Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, SwampD said: 1965 is most definitely not a boomer. Boomer hate,… that's cute. Hate the idea, not who it comes from. The idea comes from an outdated world view On 11/4/2020 at 10:04 AM, etiennep99 said: Not to start another fight...the election results are unsettling so far, but at least I can say that I'm not feeling quite so alone this morning seeing that only one county in WNY voted for Biden(Monroe). Even Erie county seems to have voted for Trump. So this BB doesn't seem representative of WNY. Islander's country seems to be split (Nassau and Suffolk voting for Trump). Rangers country, well, there's no saving NYC; enough already, make them their own state. Just saying. 🤫 Buffalo has flipped to be Biden after the left numbers I saw.
PerreaultForever Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 7:02 PM, Curt said: I think it’s the same really. Has it actually gotten more extreme? Does the same divide exist in Canada? Its definitely similar in Canada. We have some regional differences and at times northern rural areas have been (and some still are) quite progressive but overall there is a city mouse country mouse difference. We also have a bible belt believe it or not. Huge geographies like both countries have give you that. Is it more extreme? It seems so to me, and both Georgia and Pennsylvania strongly argue for that, but I could be wrong.
Weave Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 7 hours ago, SwampD said: 1965 is most definitely not a boomer. Boomer hate,… that's cute. Hate the idea, not who it comes from. I don’t hate them. I just want to see them step aside and let the next generation do their thing. 3
LGR4GM Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Weave said: I don’t hate them. I just want to see them step aside and let the next generation do their thing. Yup.
SwampD Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Weave said: I don’t hate them. I just want to see them step aside and let the next generation do their thing. They are welcome to do that now. They’d rather complain about boomers. Pretty sure that once they do start doing their thing, they’ll be the age the boomers are now,... and there’ll be the next generation complaining about them. Edited November 6, 2020 by SwampD
Eleven Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, SwampD said: They are welcome to do that now. They’d rather complain about boomers. Pretty sure that once they do start doing their thing, they’ll be the age the boomers are now,... and there’ll be the next generation complaining about them. I'd bet money that we never see a Gen X president of the United States.
Weave Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 2 hours ago, SwampD said: They are welcome to do that now. They’d rather complain about boomers. Pretty sure that once they do start doing their thing, they’ll be the age the boomers are now,... and there’ll be the next generation complaining about them. Well, that’s part of the problem. Unlike previous generations, This generation has refused to let the next generation lead. By the time age has taken its course gen X will be at a point where they need to step aside as well. I think a key difference is gen X is willing to see what the next generation can do and won’t box them out. And unlike the boomers we probably don’t have the numbers to do it if we wanted to. 14 minutes ago, Eleven said: I'd bet money that we never see a Gen X president of the United States. And there is this as well.
Weave Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 One more point to make my point. How many consecutive elections have we heard some variation of “if elected President he’d be the oldest president ever to start a term”? Their moment had passed. Its time to let the next group have its moment. 1
LGR4GM Posted November 6, 2020 Report Posted November 6, 2020 44 minutes ago, Eleven said: I'd bet money that we never see a Gen X president of the United States. Kamala Harris is GEN X or at least right on the edge of that generation divide. 1964 would be the edge of the baby boomers.
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