nfreeman Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 The toronto-Pitt trade probably increases the pressure on teams like Calgary and Buffalo to make moves sooner rather than later, innit? 3 Quote
Brawndo Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Posted August 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, nfreeman said: The toronto-Pitt trade probably increases the pressure on teams like Calgary and Buffalo to make moves sooner rather than later, innit? If I’m Treviling I wait until all 31 teams are done before making any moves. 1 Quote
Eleven Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: If I’m Treviling I wait until all 31 teams are done before making any moves. Yes. What Pittsburgh did here was haphazard. 1 Quote
In The Buff Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 I think on paper Toronto wins in this trade, but when it comes to winning right now, Pittsburgh wins hands down. The Leafs biggest issue vs Columbus was their lack of secondary scoring, so moving Kap just makes that problem even worse for them. The Pens trade futures for a 20 goal scorer that will balance out their offense better. Getting Hallander back is a nice addition for the future. He's being projected as a potential top 6 winger who plays a 2 way game. But with the Leafs in win now mode, once again I don't see how this helps them now. They do remove a few million from their cap, so perhaps they'll be looking to make more moves than this. Cmon Kevyn Adams, show us what you can do! 1 Quote
nfreeman Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: If I’m Treviling I wait until all 31 teams are done before making any moves. 1 hour ago, Eleven said: Yes. What Pittsburgh did here was haphazard. This seems logical but OTOH sometimes if you wait you lose the deal. I would guess both Toronto and Pittsburgh are glad they acted now. Quote
Eleven Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 36 minutes ago, nfreeman said: This seems logical but OTOH sometimes if you wait you lose the deal. I would guess both Toronto and Pittsburgh are glad they acted now. I see why Toronto was eager to pull the trigger. That's a haul for Kapanen. What I don't understand is why Pittsburgh thought it needed to rush to get a third-line winger. Quote
Huckleberry Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 Yeah for the penguins I don't understand this trade, sending 15th overal for a 3rd line winger. Rutherford really knows how to deplete a prospect pool. Quote
Eleven Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, Huckleberry said: Yeah for the penguins I don't understand this trade, sending 15th overal for a 3rd line winger. Rutherford really knows how to deplete a prospect pool. They also sent another 3d/4th line winger and a fairly good prospect. I hope this isn't a market-setting trade. Quote
nfreeman Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, Eleven said: I see why Toronto was eager to pull the trigger. That's a haul for Kapanen. What I don't understand is why Pittsburgh thought it needed to rush to get a third-line winger. I think Pittsburgh wanted a good, young, fast, relatively inexpensive forward who can score and pull his weight on a line with Crosby or Malkin before the window closes on this era, and that's what they got. I'd be interested to know what alternatives are out there fitting those parameters. Pitt gave up #15 overall and a prospect who is regarded as a potential bottom-6 winger -- so not a super-cheap price but not a high price either. 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 Just now, Eleven said: They also sent another 3d/4th line winger and a fairly good prospect. I hope this isn't a market-setting trade. Guess Rutherford thinks of kapanen as a top 6 addition. Quote
Eleven Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Guess Rutherford thinks of kapanen as a top 6 addition. Everything I'm reading says so. Quote
freester Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 I think it’s quite apparent that Rutherford made another boneheaded trade. Botteril has followed in his footsteps. What a great mentor ? 1 Quote
Eleven Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: I'd be interested to know what alternatives are out there fitting those parameters. The Conor Shearys of the world aren't tough to find. Quote
Taro T Posted August 25, 2020 Report Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Huckleberry said: Guess Rutherford thinks of kapanen as a top 6 addition. Does this mean Sheary leaves Crosby's side or does Sid get saddled with the both of them? If so, Malkin just got a linemate upgrade. Quote
dudacek Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Does this mean Sheary leaves Crosby's side or does Sid get saddled with the both of them? If so, Malkin just got a linemate upgrade. I bet good money the only way Sheary is back in Pittsburgh is on minimum wage-type deal. Scratch that. I bet good money the only way Sheary is back in Pittsburgh the NHL is on minimum wage-type deal. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Eleven said: I see why Toronto was eager to pull the trigger. That's a haul for Kapanen. What I don't understand is why Pittsburgh thought it needed to rush to get a third-line winger. They were just really desperate to get rid of E Rod :) I didn't even realize you were allowed to make trades with the playoffs still going. Seems weird but its a weird year. Adams should get on with it then, but he won't. Quote
French Collection Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: They were just really desperate to get rid of E Rod ? I didn't even realize you were allowed to make trades with the playoffs still going. Seems weird but its a weird year. Adams should get on with it then, but he won't. Yeah it’s a tricky time. Do you wait for the playoffs to end so you have 30 dance partners or do you pull the trigger now because it’s a good deal. I hate the Leafs but I think they got a lot for Kapanen plus some cap space. Dubas pulled the trigger. Quote
Taro T Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: They were just really desperate to get rid of E Rod ? I didn't even realize you were allowed to make trades with the playoffs still going. Seems weird but its a weird year. Adams should get on with it then, but he won't. Technically, you can make trades year round, but to play in the playoffs you have to be on the team's roster by the trade deadline. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/29738635/penguins-acquire-kasperi-kapanen-24-multiplayer-trade-maple-leafs ERod included in the deal. Basically Kapanen for the Pens 15th overall pick. Quote
tom webster Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/29738635/penguins-acquire-kasperi-kapanen-24-multiplayer-trade-maple-leafs ERod included in the deal. Basically Kapanen for the Pens 15th overall pick. Everyone keeps saying that but Hallander seems to be considered at least a reasonable prospect. Weird trade for Pittsburgh. Quote
Stoner Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 Terrible trade by two terrible franchises. Our approach is better. 2 Quote
Zamboni Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Technically, you can make trades year round, but to play in the playoffs you have to be on the team's roster by the trade deadline. Yep. It’s been that way for many many years. Trades during playoffs happen often enough. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted August 26, 2020 Report Posted August 26, 2020 It's funny how so many people around here wanted Kapanen on the Sabres and now the sentiment is Pittsburgh gave up too much. I dunno, but I guess Pitt figures Crosby doesn't have too many good years left so they hope there's some Kapanen Crosby magic about to happen. So I guess this also means they didn't think much of Kahun, or at least that he's nowhere near as good as Kapanen. Interesting. Quote
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