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12 minutes ago, Taro T said:

 

Can somebody PLEASE explain why everybody here keeps saying that Irwin is a RD?

According to HockeyDB and according to the Sabres he shoots left.  Also, images of him all show him holding a Lefty hockey stick.

So wtf does EVERYBODY keep listing him as a RD?

Because it’s based on the side you play, not how you shoot. Some Rd shoot left, some left d shoot right.

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10 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said:

Because it’s based on the side you play, not how you shoot. Some Rd shoot left, some left d shoot right.

And he has played both sides throughout his career.  So has Montour, but not 1 single person calls him a LD.

It is just weird IMHO.  Especially when he figures if he plays in Buffalo it will most likely be on the left side.

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1 hour ago, Taro T said:

And he has played both sides throughout his career.  So has Montour, but not 1 single person calls him a LD.

It is just weird IMHO.  Especially when he figures if he plays in Buffalo it will most likely be on the left side.

Bingo.

Even if he has played a lot of RD, he is going to play LD in Buffalo.

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2 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

Can somebody PLEASE explain why everybody here keeps saying that Irwin is a RD?

According to HockeyDB and according to the Sabres he shoots left.  Also, images of him all show him holding a Lefty hockey stick.

So wtf does EVERYBODY keep listing him as a RD?

He specifically listed the opening at LD as one of the reasons he signed with Buffalo.

Then again, there are countless people outside of Buffalo who still think of Sam Reinhart as a centre. That's the same Sam Reinhart who played a grand total of 9 games as a 4th line centre in 2014 and eight games between Benoit Pouliot and Seth Griffith in 2017. And 380+ games, including the past 200 or so consecutively, at RW.

There are a lot of people who work at a national level who don't actually watch the Sabres.

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Just now, Curt said:

Bingo.

Even if he has played a lot of RD, he is going to play LD in Buffalo.

So, again my question: wtf does everybody keep claiming he's a RD?

Right now he's either 3rd or 4th on the depth chart there depending on whether they plan on playing Miller moving Montour to 3LD or having Miller at his familiar 7th D-man role he held last year.

(Realizing there will be some shakeup of the RHD, but unless another LHD comes in, after that he's likely in the lineup.)

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1 minute ago, dudacek said:

He specifically listed the opening at LD as one of the reasons he signed with Buffalo.

Then again, there are countless people outside of Buffalo who still think of Sam Reinhart as a centre.

That's the same Sam Reinhart who played a grand total of 9 games as a 4th line centre in 2014 and eight games between Benoit Pouliot and Seth Griffith in 2017.

And 380+ games, including the past 200 or so consecutively, at RW.

And, my question wasn't regarding the national media, it was why quality posters like Thorny & IKP are now having posts that list him as a RD.  Everybody is doing it and it makes no sense IMHO.

people here at least don't call Reinhart a C.

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2 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

Can somebody PLEASE explain why everybody here keeps saying that Irwin is a RD?

According to HockeyDB and according to the Sabres he shoots left.  Also, images of him all show him holding a Lefty hockey stick.

So wtf does EVERYBODY keep listing him as a RD?

He plays on the left. 

He just gave an interview where he said Buffalo was desirable to him because he plays on the left and our backlog is on the right. 

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46 minutes ago, Taro T said:

And, my question wasn't regarding the national media, it was why quality posters like Thorny & IKP are now having posts that list him as a RD.  Everybody is doing it and it makes no sense IMHO.

people here at least don't call Reinhart a C.

I have no idea what you are talking about. This just isn't true - provide the evidence of your claim I am a quality poster or rescind your claim. 

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51 minutes ago, Taro T said:

So, again my question: wtf does everybody keep claiming he's a RD?

Right now he's either 3rd or 4th on the depth chart there depending on whether they plan on playing Miller moving Montour to 3LD or having Miller at his familiar 7th D-man role he held last year.

(Realizing there will be some shakeup of the RHD, but unless another LHD comes in, after that he's likely in the lineup.)

He is listed as a RD on cap friendly.  It could be as simple as that.

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2 minutes ago, Curt said:

He is listed as a RD on cap friendly.  It could be as simple as that.

Ya I've always considered him a LD, Taro must have seen my screenshotted capfriendly lineup. Maybe my OCD took over subconsciously and had to have the guy listed as a RD on the site on the right. 

He should be on the left

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5 minutes ago, Curt said:

He is listed as a RD on cap friendly.  It could be as simple as that.

This is the reason.

CF tends to be a little more specific and a little more up to date on player positions than other outlets, which usually only list "D" and are often behind the times (listing Reinhart as a C, for example).  No site is perfect on this, partly because many players have their usage changed frequently.

It's good that Irwin's a left-shot D that could theoretically play both sides; it's increased player versatility.  But if we're looking for an improved defense corp, we should be finding good players that are specialized and making the roster versatile.

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45 minutes ago, IKnowPhysics said:

This is the reason.

CF tends to be a little more specific and a little more up to date on player positions than other outlets, which usually only list "D" and are often behind the times (listing Reinhart as a C, for example).  No site is perfect on this, partly because many players have their usage changed frequently.

It's good that Irwin's a left-shot D that could theoretically play both sides; it's increased player versatility.  But if we're looking for an improved defense corp, we should be finding good players that are specialized and making the roster versatile.

Yeah, I’m not excited for Irwin to be playing regularly as 3LD, but he is a nice option as 7th or 8th D as a guy who can play either side.

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As of 10:40am EST today, 10/29/20, the Sabres numbers are as follows:

The salary cap for 2020-21 is $81.5M.

The current Sabres cap space, not counting minimum qualifying offers ($6.608M), is $3.496M.

 

The total NHL roster is currently: 12F, 9D, 2G.

Cap committed to NHL players under contract (12F, 7D, 2G), totaling $75.725M of salary (new contracts in bold):

  1. Eichel, $10M
  2. Skinner, $9M
  3. Hall, $8M
  4. Okposo, $6M
  5. Reinhart, $5.2M
  6. Staal, $3.25M
  7. Olofsson, $3.05M
  8. Eakin, $2.25M
  9. Girgensens, $2.2M
  10. Thompson, $1.4M
  11. Lazar, $0.8M
  12. Rieder, $0.7M ($51.85M for 12F)
  13. Ristolainen (RD), $5.4M
  14. Miller (RD), $3.875M
  15. Montour (RD), $3.85M
  16. McCabe (LD), $2.85M
  17. Dahlin (LD), $0.925M
  18. Jokiharju (RD), $0.925M
  19. Irwin (yo mama), $0.7M ($18.525M for 7D)
  20. Hutton, $2.75M
  21. Ullmark, $2.6M ($5.35M for Gs)

Buyout:

  1. Hodgson, $0.792M

Carryover Bonus Overages:

  1. $1.4875M

For RFAs and UFAs and non-rostered players, this leaves $81.5M - $75.725M - $0.792M - $1.4875= $3.496M

RFAs that have been qualified and not yet signed (1D) and previous salary, totaling $0.925M, and minimum qualifying offers, totaling $0.8325M:

  1. Pilut, $0.925M - min $0.8325M

Non-rostered players and NHL cap hit if rostered (11F, 7D, 2G; doesn't include UFAs):

  1. Biro, $0.925M
  2. Ruotsalainen, $0.925M
  3. Cozens, $0.894M
  4. Asplund, $0.845M
  5. Murray, $0.775M
  6. Pekar, $0.764M
  7. Oglevie, $0.750M
  8. DiPietro $0.75M
  9. Fogarty, $0.7M
  10. Dea, $0.7M
  11. CJ Smith, $0.7M
  12. Mittelstadt, QO - $0.8325
  13. Samuelsson, $0.925M
  14. Bryson, $0.889M
  15. Borgen, $0.864M
  16. Fitzgerald, $0.858M
  17. Laaksonen, $0.853M
  18. Nelson, $0.7M
  19. Davidson, $0.7M
  20. K6, $0.778
  21. Jonas Johansson, $0.7M

Most info sourced from CapFriendly.

Potential performance bonuses for 2020-21 are $3.488M (if triggered, performance bonuses extending beyond this year's cap space are applied as a cap hit in 2021-22).

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Analysis: The current cap space ($3.496M) is suspiciously close to the performance bonuses owed ($3.488M) for the full roster (12F, 7D, 2G).  If Kevyn Adams believes the performance bonuses will be triggered and he wants to sign large number of significant contracts next year (Hall, Reinhart, Staal, Dahlin, McCabe, Montour, Jokiharju, et al), I could see him chosing to not spend any more cap for most of this year (perhaps until the deadline for a playoff run).  That doesn't mean we couldn't trade, but the Adams might try to keep any trades salary-neutral.

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