2020-21 Sabres Salary Cap

[bunomatic]

12 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said:

We are going to have to sign another goalie. No way we start the season trusting Hutton’s eyes 

He’s got Ryan Millers 👀 s

[Marvin]

10 hours ago, bunomatic said:

He’s got Ryan Millers 👀 s

Wrong. 😉

 

[IKnowPhysics]

As of 3:30pm EST today, 10/12/20, the Sabres numbers are as follows:

The salary cap for 2020-21 is $81.5M.

The current Sabres cap space, not counting minimum qualifying offers ($6.608M), is $13.646M.

 

The total NHL roster is currently: 12F, 9D, 2G.

Cap committed to NHL players under contract (10F, 8D, 1G), totaling $65.575M of salary (new contracts in bold):

1. Eichel, $10M
2. Skinner, $9M
3. Hall, $8M
4. Okposo, $6M
5. Staal, $3.25M
6. Eakin, $2.25M
7. Girgensens, $2.2M
8. Thompson, $1.4M
9. Lazar, $0.8M
10. Rieder, $0.7M ($43.6M for Fs)
11. Ristolainen (RD), $5.4M
12. Miller (RD), $3.875M
13. Montour (RD), $3.85M
14. McCabe (LD), $2.85M
15. Dahlin (LD), $0.925M
16. Jokiharju (RD), $0.925M
17. Davidson (LD), $0.7M
18. Irwin (RD), $0.7M ($19.225M for 3LDs and 5RDs)
19. Hutton, $2.75M ($2.75M for Gs)

Buyout:

1. Hodgson, $0.792M

Carryover Bonus Overages:

1. $1.4875M

For RFAs and UFAs and non-rostered players, this leaves $81.5M - $65.575M - $0.792M - $1.4875= $13.646M

RFAs that have been qualified and not yet signed (2F, 1D, 1G) and previous salary, totaling $6.768M, and minimum qualifying offers, totaling $6.608M:

1. Reinhart, $3.65M - min $3.75M
2. Olofsson, $0.7675 - min $0.7M
3. Pilut, $0.925M - min $0.8325M
4. Ullmark, $1.325M - min $1.325M

Non-rostered players and NHL cap hit if rostered (doesn't include UFAs):

1. Biro, $0.925M
2. Ruotsalainen, $0.925M
3. Cozens, $0.894M
4. Asplund, $0.845M
5. Murray, $0.775M
6. Pekar, $0.764M
7. Oglevie, $0.750M
8. DiPietro $0.75M
9. Dea, $0.7M
10. CJ Smith, $0.7M
11. Mittelstadt, QO - $0.8325
12. Samualsson, $0.925M
13. Bryson, $0.889M
14. Borgen, $0.864M
15. Fitzgerald, $0.858M
16. Laaksonen, $0.853M
17. UPL, $0.778
18. Jonas Johansson, $0.7M

Most info sourced from CapFriendly.

[IKnowPhysics]

We have $13.646M to use, including signing RFAs.  Of the four minimum QOs sent, three filed for arbitration:

1. Reinhart, $3.65M - min $3.75M
2. Olofsson, $0.7675 - min $0.7M
3. Pilut, $0.925M - min $0.8325M
4. Ullmark, $1.325M - min $1.325M

 

[French Collection]

Offer sheet Cirelli or Sergachev. When Tampa matches the one, offer sheet type other and they will be above max cap.

[Gabrielor]

1 hour ago, French Collection said:

Offer sheet Cirelli or Sergachev. When Tampa matches the one, offer sheet type other and they will be above max cap.

We lack a 2021 3rd, so probably no shot.

[IKnowPhysics]

Estimating based on comparables and 3rd party projections (here, here, and here):

1. Reinhart, $6.25-7.5M, best guess $6.5M
2. Olofsson, $4-5M bridge, best guess $4.25M

Estimating based on flat-ass guessing:

1. Linus Ullmark, $2M-2.5M, best guess $2.4M

Maths: $10.5M-$15M, best guesses $13.15M

Note: this leaves little room to sign anyone else, but still need upgrades at LD and, if possible, G.  We might try to move an RD, such as Miller ($3.875M) or Montour ($3.85M), for an ELC LD.

[dudacek]

2 hours ago, IKnowPhysics said:

Estimating based on comparables and 3rd party projections (here, here, and here😞

1. Reinhart, $6.25-7.5M, best guess $6.5M
2. Olofsson, $4-5M bridge, best guess $4.25M

Estimating based on flat-ass guessing:

1. Linus Ullmark, $2M-2.5M, best guess $2.4M

Maths: $10.5M-$15M, best guesses $13.15M

Note: this leaves little room to sign anyone else, but still need upgrades at LD and, if possible, G.  We might try to move an RD, such as Miller ($3.875M) or Montour ($3.85M), for an ELC LD.

Can’t see any world where Olofsson signs a bridge for more than Kubalik.

He just got 3.7.

[IKnowPhysics]

21 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Can’t see any world where Olofsson signs a bridge for more than Kubalik.

He just got 3.7.

I'm down; that'd put us about a mil below cap.  The less these three sign for, the more shoulder room we have for D and G and trades and playoff rentals.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Ullmark is also getting more then 2.5.  Think closer to 3.0. Korpisalo is a great proxy for Ullmark and he got 2.8 for 2 years.

 

[thewookie1]

I'm guessing

Reinhart at about 5x6.5mil

Olofsson at 2x3.7mil; technically overpaid due to Kubalik having done more this year arguably.

Ullmark at 2x2.9mil

[Cal Naughton Jr]

Ugh Cody Hodgson 🤮

[nfreeman]

I think Reino is going to get a 1-year or 2-year deal.  I think they want a situation where they can extend Hall if both sides want to do so, and a fat contract for Reino would likely preclude them from doing so.

[Brawndo]

4 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

I think Reino is going to get a 1-year or 2-year deal.  I think they want a situation where they can extend Hall if both sides want to do so, and a fat contract for Reino would likely preclude them from doing so.

A two year deal walks him to UFA, he will be traded Summer 2021 if that’s the case. 
 

I could see a deal with Seattle happening at that point 

[nfreeman]

18 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

A two year deal walks him to UFA, he will be traded Summer 2021 if that’s the case. 
 

I could see a deal with Seattle happening at that point 

Yes -- if they keep Hall next Summer, they trade Reino, perhaps to Seattle.  If not, they've got Reino under contract for another year and perhaps extend him at that point.  In the meantime, a 2-year deal gives Reino more security than a 1-year deal.

[Cheektorado]

1 hour ago, Cal Naughton Jr said:

Ugh Cody Hodgson 🤮

No worries.  He comes off the books in the 2023-2024 season.  Woof.

[IKnowPhysics]

As of 8:00am EST today, 10/26/20, the Sabres numbers are as follows:

The salary cap for 2020-21 is $81.5M.

The current Sabres cap space, not counting minimum qualifying offers ($6.608M), is $6.546M.

 

The total NHL roster is currently: 12F, 9D, 2G.

Cap committed to NHL players under contract (11F, 7D, 2G), totaling $72.675M of salary (new contracts in bold):

1. Eichel, $10M
2. Skinner, $9M
3. Hall, $8M
4. Okposo, $6M
5. Reinhart, $5.2M
6. Staal, $3.25M
7. Eakin, $2.25M
8. Girgensens, $2.2M
9. Thompson, $1.4M
10. Lazar, $0.8M
11. Rieder, $0.7M ($48.8M for Fs)
12. Ristolainen (RD), $5.4M
13. Miller (RD), $3.875M
14. Montour (RD), $3.85M
15. McCabe (LD), $2.85M
16. Dahlin (LD), $0.925M
17. Jokiharju (RD), $0.925M
18. Irwin (RD), $0.7M ($18.525M for 2LDs and 5RDs)
19. Hutton, $2.75M
20. Ullmark, $2.6M ($5.35M for Gs)

Buyout:

1. Hodgson, $0.792M

Carryover Bonus Overages:

1. $1.4875M

For RFAs and UFAs and non-rostered players, this leaves $81.5M - $72.675M - $0.792M - $1.4875= $6.546M

RFAs that have been qualified and not yet signed (1F, 1D) and previous salary, totaling $1.533M, and minimum qualifying offers, totaling $6.608M:

1. Olofsson, $0.7675 - min $0.7M
2. Pilut, $0.925M - min $0.8325M

Non-rostered players and NHL cap hit if rostered (11F, 7D, 2G; doesn't include UFAs):

1. Biro, $0.925M
2. Ruotsalainen, $0.925M
3. Cozens, $0.894M
4. Asplund, $0.845M
5. Murray, $0.775M
6. Pekar, $0.764M
7. Oglevie, $0.750M
8. DiPietro $0.75M
9. Fogarty, $0.7M
10. Dea, $0.7M
11. CJ Smith, $0.7M
12. Mittelstadt, QO - $0.8325
13. Samuelsson, $0.925M
14. Bryson, $0.889M
15. Borgen, $0.864M
16. Fitzgerald, $0.858M
17. Laaksonen, $0.853M
18. Nelson, $0.7M
19. Davidson, $0.7M
20. UPL, $0.778
21. Jonas Johansson, $0.7M

Most info sourced from CapFriendly.

[IKnowPhysics]

Sabres have $6.546M with which to sign RFA Olofsson and make other moves.

They carry about $3.488M in potential performance bonuses, but this doesn't have to impact this year unless Kevyn Adams decides to be conservative.  On performance bonuses:

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Performance Bonuses

There are two types of performances bonuses available*, each capped at different amounts and restricted to different benchmarks the player has to meet to earn them. While signing bonuses can appear on any contract, performance bonuses are restricted to ELCs and 35+ contracts. How performance bonuses work in terms of cap management is the same, no matter what sort they are or which contract they appear on.

*There is also a games played bonus, which is technically separate, but for our purposes here, that doesn’t matter.

In the normal course of things, you ignore the performance bonuses on a contract. They aren’t added into the cap hit that is calculated from the 23-man roster, and generally we forget they exist. But there are many ways in which they factor into a team’s plans.

Bonus Cushion

Theoretically, on day one of the season, every performance bonus on every contract for a player on the 23-man roster could be earned through the season. Assuming they are, the total of these potential bonuses must fit inside the available cap space the team has.

That’s not very practical, however, and most bonuses don’t get earned, so the CBA allows a bonus cushion, or 7.5 per cent of the upper limit of the salary cap. That is $5,962,500 $6.1125M this season. A teams’ potential bonuses need to fit inside the cap and/or the cushion at all times. For most teams, this cushion is big enough to allow them to operate right at the cap. Exceeding the bonus cushion is the same thing as exceeding the salary cap and carries the same penalties.

Bonus Rollover

Performance bonuses count against the salary cap as soon as they are earned. If there’s cap space to absorb them, great, we never need speak of it again unless you’re a luxury car salesperson, and you have the player’s phone number.

If the end of year cap space isn’t enough to absorb the bonuses actually earned, then the excess is rolled into the next year and counts against the salary cap, eating into the space just like retained salary or an overpaid player in the press box does.

This season the Leafs have $2,550,000 Sabres have $1.4875M from last season counting against the cap like a phantom character guy doing some eight minute games on the fourth line.

 

Edited October 26, 2020 by IKnowPhysics

[thewookie1]

Why does the Girgs contract have to continue to pain me at every turn?

[Thorner]

5 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

Why does the Girgs contract have to continue to pain me at every turn?

The overpay doesn't matter, because RK likes him. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, Thorny said:

The overpay doesn't matter, because RK likes him. 

He likes Risto also.  Questionable judgement?  

 

[Wyldnwoody44]

6 hours ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

What is Bette Davis' size?

Betty Davis eyes

[Wyldnwoody44]

2 minutes ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

Why would someone want to have a dead woman's eyes? Is this a Halloween song?

It's 2020 man, I don't know up from down anymore. 

[Thorner]

18 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He likes Risto also.  Questionable judgement?  

 

Jury is still very much out on coach. That has to be obvious - he has one, losing season to his name here, so far.

Some things to like, we'll have a pretty solid idea after this season. 

Raised expectations. 

[Taro T]

On 10/26/2020 at 11:15 AM, IKnowPhysics said:

As of 8:00am EST today, 10/26/20, the Sabres numbers are as follows:

The salary cap for 2020-21 is $81.5M.

The current Sabres cap space, not counting minimum qualifying offers ($6.608M), is $6.546M.

 

The total NHL roster is currently: 12F, 9D, 2G.

Cap committed to NHL players under contract (11F, 7D, 2G), totaling $72.675M of salary (new contracts in bold):

1. Eichel, $10M
2. Skinner, $9M
3. Hall, $8M
4. Okposo, $6M
5. Reinhart, $5.2M
6. Staal, $3.25M
7. Eakin, $2.25M
8. Girgensens, $2.2M
9. Thompson, $1.4M
10. Lazar, $0.8M
11. Rieder, $0.7M ($48.8M for Fs)
12. Ristolainen (RD), $5.4M
13. Miller (RD), $3.875M
14. Montour (RD), $3.85M
15. McCabe (LD), $2.85M
16. Dahlin (LD), $0.925M
17. Jokiharju (RD), $0.925M
18. Irwin (RD), $0.7M ($18.525M for 2LDs and 5RDs)
19. Hutton, $2.75M
20. Ullmark, $2.6M ($5.35M for Gs)

Buyout:

1. Hodgson, $0.792M

Carryover Bonus Overages:

1. $1.4875M

For RFAs and UFAs and non-rostered players, this leaves $81.5M - $72.675M - $0.792M - $1.4875= $6.546M

RFAs that have been qualified and not yet signed (1F, 1D) and previous salary, totaling $1.533M, and minimum qualifying offers, totaling $6.608M:

1. Olofsson, $0.7675 - min $0.7M
2. Pilut, $0.925M - min $0.8325M

Non-rostered players and NHL cap hit if rostered (11F, 7D, 2G; doesn't include UFAs):

1. Biro, $0.925M
2. Ruotsalainen, $0.925M
3. Cozens, $0.894M
4. Asplund, $0.845M
5. Murray, $0.775M
6. Pekar, $0.764M
7. Oglevie, $0.750M
8. DiPietro $0.75M
9. Fogarty, $0.7M
10. Dea, $0.7M
11. CJ Smith, $0.7M
12. Mittelstadt, QO - $0.8325
13. Samuelsson, $0.925M
14. Bryson, $0.889M
15. Borgen, $0.864M
16. Fitzgerald, $0.858M
17. Laaksonen, $0.853M
18. Nelson, $0.7M
19. Davidson, $0.7M
20. UPL, $0.778
21. Jonas Johansson, $0.7M

Most info sourced from CapFriendly.

 

Can somebody PLEASE explain why everybody here keeps saying that Irwin is a RD?

According to HockeyDB and according to the Sabres he shoots left.  Also, images of him all show him holding a Lefty hockey stick.

So wtf does EVERYBODY keep listing him as a RD?