Stanley Cup Playoffs 2020 Thread

[SwampD]

1 minute ago, ubkev said:

That's not a goal

That's a goal.

[ubkev]

Just now, SwampD said:

That's a goal.

Bull *****! You never SEE it across the line. If you can't see it, it ain't in.

I mean, I thought it was a goal live. But who's to say if that pick ever went in?

Anyway, what a period. That was some bad hockey! The Avalanche are gripping the sticks too tight and they need to regroup or they're going to get their ***** kicked.

[LabattBlue]

There is NO WAY the referee behind the net saw the puck. I’m pretty sure he called a good goal based on Lindell raising his stick in the air.  Nothing in the 10 different angles showed differently. 

[Eleven]

1)  My bracket desperately needs Grubauer back.

2)  Someone please get Jim Nill a laxative.  He looks very pained.

[LabattBlue]

Enquiring minds want to know...

 

if everyone is in the bubble, why are off ice folks who are at the arena wearing masks? ?

[Eleven]

50 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Enquiring minds want to know...

 

if everyone is in the bubble, why are off ice folks who are at the arena wearing masks? ?

This is a good point.

Also, Kenny Albert reminds me of Bert from Sesame Street.  Looks, not voice.

[PerreaultForever]

4 hours ago, JohnC said:

For the most part our views coincide. One critical difference between the teams is that because the Sabre's talent pool is so much thinner than Boston's they can make personnel mistakes yet be better able to absorb those mistakes and move on. The ROR trade demonstrates the point how a Buffalo mistake can be so debilitating because of a limited roster . We are still trying to find a resolution to that damaging transaction.  Another attribute of Boston is that they have a team identity that embodies rugged two way play. And they are good at finding players that fit in with their identity. (Which you have noted.) If a player is not capable or unwilling to play that punishing style then that player is moved. 

The Funny thing about that talent pool is Boston hasn't actually drafted all that well. Those 3 first round picks they had a few years ago only DeBrusk came out of that. They've also picked far later than us and have traded picks and prospects for playoff runs and yet, somehow they still have more talent coming up than us, why? perhaps they don't throw raw undeveloped talent into second line center roles and they pair rookie defensemen with solid veterans and keep that pairing to let the kid develop properly. Point is, I don't think they've drafted more talent than us, they just develop it better in that culture. 

Dallas looks good right now. wth?

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

Enquiring minds want to know...

 

if everyone is in the bubble, why are off ice folks who are at the arena wearing masks? ?

It's precautionary as those people are exposed to more people outside of their teammates. It's all working, not a single positive test. 

[bob_sauve28]

11 hours ago, Thorny said:

The Islanders are sooo good. And sooooooooooo boring! 

I like them. They remind me of ‘99 Sabres. Not sure they can beat Bruins if they meet, but I’m hoping. 

[JohnC]

6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

The Funny thing about that talent pool is Boston hasn't actually drafted all that well. Those 3 first round picks they had a few years ago only DeBrusk came out of that. They've also picked far later than us and have traded picks and prospects for playoff runs and yet, somehow they still have more talent coming up than us, why? perhaps they don't throw raw undeveloped talent into second line center roles and they pair rookie defensemen with solid veterans and keep that pairing to let the kid develop properly. Point is, I don't think they've drafted more talent than us, they just develop it better in that culture.

Dallas looks good right now. wth?

Your comments about Boston's ability to develop and nurture talent is a reflection of the stability and identity of the team.  Compare that to the churning of coaches and GMs in the Sabre world. The standard pattern of behavior of a new GM is to undo what has been done before his ascension and then dispatching the staff throughout the system to start all over again. Players that were invested in are then disinvested in. The hallmark of successful teams such as Tampa and Boston are stability and a belief in their system. Do you remember who won the race between the turtle and the hare? Knowing where you are going and steadily moving in the right direction  may not be glitzy but it is predictably the more successful approach.

 

[carpandean]

8 hours ago, JohnC said:

The standard pattern of behavior of a new GM is to undo what has been done before his ascension and then dispatching the staff throughout the system to start all over again.

This bothers me about GM's and coaches.  We'll have a year where nothing works except the PK, and then a new coach will come in and change everything including the PK.  Other things improve, but suddenly the same guys are bad on the PK.  Same has been true when our PP actually worked, despite 5-on-5 being bad, and then the new coaches changes it up.  Other things improve, but the PP goes to hell.  Do they actually try to find out what worked before changing everything up?  First thing that I'm doing at as a new coach is looking where we performed well and where we did not.  Look at the numbers, look at film, talk to the players, heck talk to the media guys.  The job is easier if you don't have to "fix" everything.  You don't look better by implementing something new that doesn't work than you would by doing what they last guy did that did work.  They should start with what worked, and then look for ways to improve from there.

Happened with the Bills, too.  We had a lot of good defenses, but new coaches always had to put in their own systems. 

Edited August 25, 2020 by carpandean
fixed word order

[apuszczalowski]

4 hours ago, JohnC said:

Your comments about Boston's ability to develop and nurture talent is a reflection of the stability and identity of the team.  Compare that to the churning of coaches and GMs in the Sabre world. The standard pattern of behavior of a new GM is to undo what has been done before his ascension and then dispatching the staff throughout the system to start all over again. Players that were invested in are then disinvested in. The hallmark of successful teams such as Tampa and Boston are stability and a belief in their system. Do you remember who won the race between the turtle and the hare? Knowing where you are going and steadily moving in the right direction  may not be glitzy but it is predictably the more successful approach.

 

This is true in some cases, but what players have the Sabres disinvested in that moved elsewhere and became more successful?

Recently Lehner comes to mind but that was more of his own personal demons then anything else

O'Reilly might be another, but he wasn't bad here

[JohnC]

34 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

This is true in some cases, but what players have the Sabres disinvested in that moved elsewhere and became more successful?

Recently Lehner comes to mind but that was more of his own personal demons then anything else

O'Reilly might be another, but he wasn't bad here

Since the Pegulas have taken over how many coaches and GMs has the organization gone through? This constant churning of staff and systems is not conducive to a stable and winning franchise. There are teams that have been involved in a rebuilding program for a shorter duration and have successfully made the arduous transition to being a serious team. Different staffs have different reconstruction philosophies that don't shorten the time in a rebuild as much as they prolong it. Based on its prolonged lackluster record Buffalo is a good example of how not to run an operation. 

I like the Pegulas and are glad that they became the owners. Without question they are well intentioned. However, they have been very misguided in their attempt to manage the franchise.  I'm hoping that they will have learned from their mistakes.  

[bob_sauve28]

Oh man, poor Tampa here 

[Eleven]

4 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Oh man, poor Tampa here 

I just put it on.  Anything of significance other than the goal?

[bob_sauve28]

1 minute ago, Eleven said:

I just put it on.  Anything of significance other than the goal?

Goal called back for offsides by Tampa. Cooper freaked out, fight followed

[Cascade Youth]

Bogosian breaking his stick and wiping out leading to a goal.  Dude is just kind of a klutz.

[bob_sauve28]

Bogo! 

[Claude Balls]

13 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said:

Bogosian breaking his stick and wiping out leading to a goal.  Dude is just kind of a klutz.

He wasn't klutzy on that play. That was beautiful.

[Cascade Youth]

And there’s the Good Bogo, right on cue.

[Zamboni]

C’mon Tampa... 

 

[Claude Balls]

Now Bogo needs to drop the gloves and go psycho on Marchand

[jsb]

Sad news, there was an explosion in the Bogo Bunker, everyone was obliterated.

 

???

[Claude Balls]

26 minutes ago, jsb said:

Sad news, there was an explosion in the Bogo Bunker, everyone was obliterated.

 

???

I was never in there. I always likes the guy. He was the only guy with a set of balls on the team. Unfortunately those balls were sore a lot.

[jsb]

21 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:

I was never in there. I always likes the guy. He was the only guy with a set of balls on the team. Unfortunately those balls were sore a lot.

I believe he had Clauditis