Thwomp! Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 We're stuck with Eakin. No one is taking him with another year left on his contract. We should have just kept Larsson, who signed for less. 1
pi2000 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 47 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: How is Eakin still on this team? I would have waived him already. He's only a -6, TRpm of +4.5. He's less of a liability at ES than as say Sam Reinhart (-24, -9 TRpm) or Victor Olofsson (-20, -7 TRpm).... so should we waive them too? 2
LGR4GM Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, pi2000 said: He's only a -6, TRpm of +4.5. He's less of a liability at ES than as say Sam Reinhart (-24, -9 TRpm) or Victor Olofsson (-20, -7 TRpm).... so should we waive them too? 2
klos1963 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 20 hours ago, steveoath said: I wonder if we can agree to trade Ullmark but resign him in Summer. Seems like the kind of guy that would see the big picture. What is the big picture, and why would it encourage Ullmark to re-sign here? 2 1
Thwomp! Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, pi2000 said: He's only a -6, TRpm of +4.5. He's less of a liability at ES than as say Sam Reinhart (-24, -9 TRpm) or Victor Olofsson (-20, -7 TRpm).... so should we waive them too? I mean, sure, if anyone was running an NHL team based on TRpm. We'd have a team full of Eakins. Sounds wonderful. 1 1
LGR4GM Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, klos1963 said: What is the big picture, and why would it encourage Ullmark to re-sign here? an 85" tv that just shows pictures of Sweden #BigPicture 1
pi2000 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Thwomp! said: I mean, sure, if anyone was running an NHL team based on TRpm. We'd have a team full of Eakins. Sounds wonderful. Actually, you'd have a team that maybe doesn't score much, but gives up the fewest goals in the league. Throw in an all-world goalie and they'd be Cup contenders every season and well under the cap 🙂
LGR4GM Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, pi2000 said: Actually, you'd have a team that maybe doesn't score much, but gives up the fewest goals in the league. Throw in an all-world goalie and they'd be Cup contenders every season and well under the cap 🙂 This is literally the only way this model could ever work. Mainly because +/- does not account for all goals. But also because having a team sit in a defensive shell invites more shots/chances against and will result in more goals. It is why no one gives a ***** about +/- compared to transition stats.
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Actually, you'd have a team that maybe doesn't score much, but gives up the fewest goals in the league. Throw in an all-world goalie and they'd be Cup contenders every season and well under the cap 🙂 Kind of like the Sabres during the Hasek years, eh? 1 1
pi2000 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, New Scotland (NS) said: Kind of like the Sabres during the Hasek years, eh? fun times wasn't it? 1
SwampD Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: This is literally the only way this model could ever work. Mainly because +/- does not account for all goals. But also because having a team sit in a defensive shell invites more shots/chances against and will result in more goals. It is why no one gives a ***** about +/- compared to transition stats. What if it was a team that scored a lot, but kept losing games late because they didn’t have a shutdown D man. They might give a *****.
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Let's Go B-Lo said: The Devils. Someone will try this again btw and it almost destroyed the league the last time this phenomenon caught on. The Devils when they won their cups I don't think they played that damn trap, well at least the first two anyway. Marty and Scott were the reasons. 6 minutes ago, Let's Go B-Lo said: It was nice to have a good goalie but the hockey was boring AF. This stuff needs to not come back into vogue. Was it boring in 1998 and, especially, 1999?
LGR4GM Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, New Scotland (NS) said: The Devils when they won their cups I don't think they played that damn trap, well at least the first two anyway. Marty and Scott were the reasons. The shooting skills and puck movement of todays game would make playing that style problematic. A Mackinnon or McDavid would just carve through you in transition and the shooting talent would be brutal. 1
DarthEbriate Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: The Devils when they won their cups I don't think they played that damn trap, well at least the first two anyway. Marty and Scott were the reasons. Was it boring in 1998 and, especially, 1999? People forget that while the Devils popularized the trap, they also did it with some very, very good rosters. The 1999 roster could be argued to be on par with the Western powerhouses of Detroit, Colorado, and Dallas. (And yes, it helped them that Lindros was injured for the playoffs). 1998-99 are probably not analytics darlings, true. But that was fun and entertaining, edge-of-your seat hockey. The winning helped. 1
Hoss Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, inkman said: I can’t believe he’s under contract for another season. He’s the worst forward in the NHL. He gets caved every night while bringing nothing other than an above average FO%. Coaches need to be educated on how little value that metric has. He’s exactly Vladimir Sobotka. This is actually accurate. When he was with VGK he had every single teammate’s eGF go down with him on the ice.
Thwomp! Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hoss said: This is actually accurate. When he was with VGK he had every single teammate’s eGF go down with him on the ice. Thank goodness the guy in charge of pro scouting was fired. He definitely didn't get a promotion and is still running things. I was worried there for a second.
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: People forget that while the Devils popularized the trap, they also did it with some very, very good rosters. The 1999 roster could be argued to be on par with the Western powerhouses of Detroit, Colorado, and Dallas. (And yes, it helped them that Lindros was injured for the playoffs). 1998-99 are probably not analytics darlings, true. But that was fun and entertaining, edge-of-your seat hockey. The winning helped. In 1995 the Devils were a very stacked team and did not play the trap. They beat all comers fair and square. 2000, I don't think was a trap year ... they still were stacked. 2003, well maybe that was a trap year. I agree completely about the 1998 and 1999 Sabres. They were very sound defensively, but good offensively too. They had a real *baller* in Hasek, though.
klos1963 Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 8 hours ago, LGR4GM said: an 85" tv that just shows pictures of Sweden #BigPicture Pegula would only spring for a 60". Covid ya know.
SwampD Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Hoss said: This is actually accurate. When he was with VGK he had every single teammate’s eGF go down with him on the ice. I actually read this as “he had every single teammate’s ex-girlfriend go down on him on the ice.” 4 2
inkman Posted April 9, 2021 Report Posted April 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, SwampD said: I actually read this as “he had every single teammate’s ex-girlfriend go down on him on the ice.” Would certainly lead to not being very popular
LGR4GM Posted April 10, 2021 Report Posted April 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said: No new rumors? Not very encouraging Posters who say this, there are quite a few, confuse me. Because there aren't new rumors constantly it must be bad? 2
pastajoe Posted April 10, 2021 Report Posted April 10, 2021 Leafs acquire F Riley Nash from Blue Jackets for conditional seventh-rounder. Avalanche acquire D Patrik Nemeth from Red Wings for fourth-round pick.
inkman Posted April 10, 2021 Report Posted April 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, pastajoe said: Leafs acquire F Riley Nash from Blue Jackets for conditional seventh-rounder. Avalanche acquire D Patrik Nemeth from Red Wings for fourth-round pick. This is posted in the actual trade thread.
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 10, 2021 Report Posted April 10, 2021 Montour to someplace for something not very good. e5
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