inkman Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Scottysabres said: If I'm Adams, I'm topping any offer by Montreal. PLD is a package Buffalo needs, Center, Size, Tenaciousness and Skill. You acquire players like this, especially at 22 yrs of age, under team control, a bit raw, but very moldable with the right coaching staff. Foolish not to grab this guy imo. He wants to play “on a big stage”. Guessing Buffalo doesn’t make the cut.
Cityo'Rasmii Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, inkman said: He wants to play “on a big stage”. Guessing Buffalo doesn’t make the cut. You could very well be right, ink but we don't know what's in PLD's head or his agent's head for sure (unless it's been published by a credible source). We're aggravated being 0-2. go Sabres
inkman Posted January 16, 2021 Report Posted January 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Cityo'Rasmii said: You could very well be right, ink but we don't know what's in PLD's head or his agent's head for sure (unless it's been published by a credible source). We're aggravated being 0-2. go Sabres 1
Derrico Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Brawndo said: They should have been doing this a month ago. I don’t doubt they were but beyond frustrating nothing was able to get done. Didn’t we see a bunch of goalie signings and trades during free agency? Adams shouldn’t be let off the hook for this.
inkman Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Derrico said: They should have been doing this a month ago. I don’t doubt they were but beyond frustrating nothing was able to get done. Didn’t we see a bunch of goalie signings and trades during free agency? Adams shouldn’t be let off the hook for this. So how do we hold him accountable? Stop going to games? 😛 Stop buying new royal blue merch?🙄 I hear ya I just don’t think there is much to grasp on to. 1
jsb Posted January 20, 2021 Report Posted January 20, 2021 20 minutes ago, Derrico said: They should have been doing this a month ago. I don’t doubt they were but beyond frustrating nothing was able to get done. Didn’t we see a bunch of goalie signings and trades during free agency? Adams shouldn’t be let off the hook for this. Not that I completely disagree with you but we just gave up 5 goals (discounting the ENG) in the last 3 games against Washington and the Flyers. We lost 2 of them because we couldn't score. I wouldn't be so hard on Adams for this just yet but with Linus U. situation in the air, we do need to go get someone if there's a chance to.
Thorner Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Derrico said: They should have been doing this a month ago. I don’t doubt they were but beyond frustrating nothing was able to get done. Didn’t we see a bunch of goalie signings and trades during free agency? Adams shouldn’t be let off the hook for this. It was a mistake, but 2 hours ago, inkman said: So how do we hold him accountable? Stop going to games? 😛 Stop buying new royal blue merch?🙄 I hear ya I just don’t think there is much to grasp on to. Ink is right. Also, I'm willing to let him off the hook for this, absolutely, if he makes a timely upgrade in the coming days. Botterill's inaction was always a bigger issue than his actions. (For the most part, obviously). Edited January 21, 2021 by Thorny
Scottysabres Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 Adams, Botterill, what difference does it make honestly given the covid situation, the unknowns ad the year progressed. The fact remains, the problem is here, now. If we are to make a eun for the playoffs, the goalie position must be addressed within the next couple of weeks in my opinion.
Derrico Posted January 21, 2021 Report Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, jsb said: Not that I completely disagree with you but we just gave up 5 goals (discounting the ENG) in the last 3 games against Washington and the Flyers. We lost 2 of them because we couldn't score. I wouldn't be so hard on Adams for this just yet but with Linus U. situation in the air, we do need to go get someone if there's a chance to. Don't confuse how well the goalies are playing with how well the team has played in front of the goalies. Linus, Hutton and JJ have a save percentage this season of: .905, .899 and .889 respectively. It's even more frustrating how well the team really has played in terms of shot suppression and they're 1-3. I never had a problem with Ullmark. Hutton sub .900 save percentage is just not going to come close to getting it done over the course of a season.....again... Edited January 21, 2021 by Derrico 4 1
Crusader1969 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 What does it take to get Dubois and Merzlikins out of Columbus? I'll start with next years #1 and Mittlestadt...plus???
LGR4GM Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: What does it take to get Dubois and Merzlikins out of Columbus? I'll start with next years #1 and Mittlestadt...plus??? you are adding at least Reinhart and maybe cozens to that deal. Maybe you can somehow hold onto to cozens but I don't see how, if they heavily value Reinhart perhaps but Columbus needs centers.
dudacek Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: What does it take to get Dubois and Merzlikins out of Columbus? I'll start with next years #1 and Mittlestadt...plus??? I can't see the Sabres and Jackets connecting for a trade that doesn't involve Dylan Cozens or Sam Reinhart. And the Sabres would have to add. Other teams will be offering an asset at least that good.
Brawndo Posted January 22, 2021 Author Report Posted January 22, 2021 Dreger mentioned there are more teams in on PLD than not. He also said he believes the Sabres are not in the Top 5 to acquire Him. They are looking for a center in return and have asked Montreal for Suzuki they countered with Jesper Kotamnemi.
thewookie1 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Dreger mentioned there are more teams in on PLD than not. He also said he believes the Sabres are not in the Top 5 to acquire Him. They are looking for a center in return and have asked Montreal for Suzuki they countered with Jesper Kotamnemi. Not exactly surprising; they'd be looking for a 1to1 swap of young centers and we don't exactly have one close in value. Eichel >> PLD Cozens ? PLD Staal, Sheahan, Girgs, etc < PLD
Brawndo Posted January 22, 2021 Author Report Posted January 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Not exactly surprising; they'd be looking for a 1to1 swap of young centers and we don't exactly have one close in value. Eichel >> PLD Cozens ? PLD Staal, Sheahan, Girgs, etc < PLD Dreger used the term plug and play Cozens doesn’t fit that bill
Crusader1969 Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, dudacek said: I can't see the Sabres and Jackets connecting for a trade that doesn't involve Dylan Cozens or Sam Reinhart. And the Sabres would have to add. Other teams will be offering an asset at least that good. definitely need to subtract some salary to bring in Dubois. 1st rounder is worth a lot though, so I doubt you need to add Cozens. Is Mitts at the level of Kotanmeni? If i was the Sabres, Id get him in the lineup to boost his worth. Just now, Crusader1969 said: definitely need to subtract some salary to bring in Dubois. 1st rounder is worth a lot though, so I doubt you need to add Cozens. Is Mitts at the level of Kotanmeni? If i was the Sabres, Id get him in the lineup to boost his worth. Should add, the deal definitely needs to include one of their goalies
dudacek Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: definitely need to subtract some salary to bring in Dubois. 1st rounder is worth a lot though, so I doubt you need to add Cozens. Is Mitts at the level of Kotanmeni? If i was the Sabres, Id get him in the lineup to boost his worth. Should add, the deal definitely needs to include one of their goalies Cozens is worth more than a Sabres first rounder — more proven and closer to making an impact. The Jackets will not accept a package with the biggest piece worth less than Cozens or Reinhart. Mitts is, without question, worth less than Kotkaniemi.
JohnC Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, dudacek said: Cozens is worth more than a Sabres first rounder — more proven and closer to making an impact. The Jackets will not accept a package with the biggest piece worth less than Cozens or Reinhart. Mitts is, without question, worth less than Kotkaniemi. Montreal probably has the most to offer with some high end young talent. Although they are reluctant to give up a talent like Suzuki plus a lot more they can get a deal done if they are willing to pay the steep price.
nfreeman Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, dudacek said: I can't see the Sabres and Jackets connecting for a trade that doesn't involve Dylan Cozens or Sam Reinhart. And the Sabres would have to add. Other teams will be offering an asset at least that good. 3 hours ago, Brawndo said: Dreger mentioned there are more teams in on PLD than not. He also said he believes the Sabres are not in the Top 5 to acquire Him. They are looking for a center in return and have asked Montreal for Suzuki they countered with Jesper Kotamnemi. I agree that the Sabres aren't getting PLD without giving up Reino or Cozens. I continue to think giving up Reino makes more sense from the Sabres' perspective than giving up Cozens, and I kinda think the Sabres feel the same way -- although I don't know whether they would trade Reino for PLD. I also think Reino has more value than Kotkie., although Suzuki is pretty close.
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) PLD value just took a hit with his play last night. Also the COVID quarantine rules in Canada make a deal with a Canadian club harder. Having a guy sit for two weeks before he suits up this season is a big hurdle in a US to Canada team trade. How much is PLD worth? I’d give them Mitts, our first, and Eakin. Cap has to be considered. Getting a guy with an attitude problem regardless of talent doesn’t help value. Edited January 22, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN 1
Thorner Posted January 22, 2021 Report Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Brawndo said: Dreger mentioned there are more teams in on PLD than not. He also said he believes the Sabres are not in the Top 5 to acquire Him. They are looking for a center in return and have asked Montreal for Suzuki they countered with Jesper Kotamnemi. Not in the top 5 because we aren't willing to part w/ a guy like Cozens or b/c they aren't interested in him? Edited January 22, 2021 by Thorny
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