Scottysabres Posted October 13, 2020 Report Posted October 13, 2020 50 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Just a reality check...building a playoff team is more than just collecting talent. Find the right mix or you may end up on the outside looking in...again. Agreed, with that said, we have to many PMD's and literally near 0 shutdown D. Plus goaltending is average to sub-par.
LGR4GM Posted October 13, 2020 Report Posted October 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Agreed, with that said, we have to many PMD's and literally near 0 shutdown D. Plus goaltending is average to sub-par. I don't want shutdown D, I want a defender that can get the puck and move it out of the zone. The closest thing we have to a shutdown guy is McCabe and Borgen. I would note that Borgen has sneaky good skating and passes well. 2
Thorner Posted October 13, 2020 Report Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Scottysabres said: Looking at Buffalo's D situation on capfriendly. Is Borgen ready yet? What about Fitzgerald. Also, does Pilut get a shot at a full time LD position? Looks like the Sabres have some options to move a couple of D and at least 1 forward and still have some depth, no? At this point, we are blocking ourselves from finding out what some of these guys can provide by our backlog of RHD. Borgen will be 24 before the season starts - if he's going to be ready, we can and should find out right now. I'm not worried about moving a RHD, myself. Edited October 13, 2020 by Thorny 2
Cal Naughton Jr Posted October 13, 2020 Report Posted October 13, 2020 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Just a reality check...building a playoff team is more than just collecting talent. Find the right mix or you may end up on the outside looking in...again. That is just pure speculation and I won’t have any of it 1
Curt Posted October 14, 2020 Report Posted October 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Scottysabres said: Agreed, with that said, we have to many PMD's and literally near 0 shutdown D. Plus goaltending is average to sub-par. I don’t get this distinction between “puck moving D“ and “shutdown D”. A guy can be both. The best shutdown D are definitely great puck movers. Every D should be a puck moving D. If a D is a poor puck mover, it’s a serious limitation on his ability to play defense. 1
Ducky Posted October 14, 2020 Report Posted October 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Curt said: I don’t get this distinction between “puck moving D“ and “shutdown D”. A guy can be both. The best shutdown D are definitely great puck movers. Every D should be a puck moving D. If a D is a poor puck mover, it’s a serious limitation on his ability to play defense. Just ask Tyler Myers! 1
#freejame Posted October 14, 2020 Report Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Trettioåtta said: Looking at the Flames roster - there is no one I really want over Sam and their goalie has pretty mediocre stats. I hope Miller is the centre piece of the trade (obviously with significant add from us) I love Sam Reinhart and defend him every chance I get but if you can swap him for Sean Monahan you do that every day of the week
Two or less Posted October 14, 2020 Report Posted October 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Steddy13 said: sabresparaavida has actual sources? On June 23rd he told us Sabres were gonna target Taylor Hall. fwiw lol
nfreeman Posted October 14, 2020 Report Posted October 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, #freejame said: I love Sam Reinhart and defend him every chance I get but if you can swap him for Sean Monahan you do that every day of the week I do not love Reinhart, although I like him well enough, but after watching the Flames in the playoffs I probably wouldn't trade him for Monahan. I was really unimpressed with Monahan. He had zero intensity to his game and it was way too easy for the opponent to clear the zone when his line was on. I would trade Reino for Gaudreau though.
Radar Posted October 14, 2020 Report Posted October 14, 2020 57 minutes ago, nfreeman said: I do not love Reinhart, although I like him well enough, but after watching the Flames in the playoffs I probably wouldn't trade him for Monahan. I was really unimpressed with Monahan. He had zero intensity to his game and it was way too easy for the opponent to clear the zone when his line was on. I would trade Reino for Gaudreau though. Interesting that I read an article that asked the question of how important Gaudreau is to Monahan's success.
Flashsabre Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 10:24 AM, sabresparaavida said: Source said talks with Calgary are heating up again- not the same trade, but one that would bring in a top 6 forward, and a goalie. Can Gaudreau play RW? 😀
Scottysabres Posted October 15, 2020 Report Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) On 10/13/2020 at 10:24 AM, sabresparaavida said: Source said talks with Calgary are heating up again- not the same trade, but one that would bring in a top 6 forward, and a goalie. I believe Buffalo and Calgary would make decent trade partners. Both can address needs for the other. As for the top 6, I'm not sure on the Monahan situation, read a little via tweets but just not really up to speed on him and why they'd be willing to move him. As for Gaudreau, another LW'er? Has Skinner already agreed to waive his NTC or something? Lol. Obviously I jest, but I'm going to deduce a deal of a top 6 forward and a backup goalie is going to be Gaudreau or Monahan. Not sure on Lindholm, maybe one of the other members can speak to his game and potential. Top 6 forward seems interesting, but once again, what really interests me is the net minder scenario. If it's a lateral move cap space wise, Hutton for Rittich, I'll assume they intend to move Hutton somehow given I don't see Calgary taking him back in a deal and they just inked Markstrom and Domingue. I'm down with that. I would also surmise a deal like this puts Ullmark in full control of #1. I assume we'd be looking at one of the RD's going out and something else? Edited October 15, 2020 by Scottysabres
dudacek Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Montour to Calgary for a 2nd, two 2nds to Arizona for Kuemper Edited October 16, 2020 by dudacek 1
Andrew Amerk Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, dudacek said: Montour to Calgary for a 2nd, two 2nds to Arizona for Kuemper The goalie is worth more than the forward?
dudacek Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 37 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: The goalie is worth more than the forward? Based on the way he's performed the past two seasons, Kuemper is worth more than Montour. Maybe we can get Raantta for just a 2nd.
Turbo44 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said: The goalie is worth more than the forward? Kuemper is worth a ton more than Montour - look at his last couple years - top 10 goalie. My #1 trade target. Sabres get Kuemper, Sabres make the playoffs ++. Arizona is up against the cap too Reinhart, mittlestadt, Hutton, Miller, 2022 1st for kuemper, hanifan, schmaltz, kessel would have to unload another contract to make cap work for us 1
Two or less Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Kuemper is worth a ton more than Montour - look at his last couple years - top 10 goalie. My #1 trade target. Sabres get Kuemper, Sabres make the playoffs ++. Arizona is up against the cap too Reinhart, mittlestadt, Hutton, Miller, 2022 1st for kuemper, hanifan, schmaltz, kessel would have to unload another contract to make cap work for us This is just a bit too much, dont ya think? Also, how did Hanifan get himself involved in this? lol 1
stinky finger Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Kuemper is worth a ton more than Montour - look at his last couple years - top 10 goalie. My #1 trade target. Sabres get Kuemper, Sabres make the playoffs ++. Arizona is up against the cap too Reinhart, mittlestadt, Hutton, Miller, 2022 1st for kuemper, hanifan, schmaltz, kessel would have to unload another contract to make cap work for us Don't be shy
Turbo44 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Leaf Blower said: Don't be shy Yep - more realistic- kuemper for Mittelstadt and a 3rd Sabres trade Miller elsewhere for a 3rd
thewookie1 Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Turbo44 said: Kuemper is worth a ton more than Montour - look at his last couple years - top 10 goalie. My #1 trade target. Sabres get Kuemper, Sabres make the playoffs ++. Arizona is up against the cap too Reinhart, mittlestadt, Hutton, Miller, 2022 1st for kuemper, hanifan, schmaltz, kessel would have to unload another contract to make cap work for us For starters this would be absurd levels of overpayments, then I'm confused as to how Hanifin ended up in Arizona. Secondarily the team is now worse overall. Kuemper is an upgrade for sure but Reinhart is still the best player involved seeing as Kessel is rather old at this point.
tom webster Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: For starters this would be absurd levels of overpayments, then I'm confused as to how Hanifin ended up in Arizona. Secondarily the team is now worse overall. Kuemper is an upgrade for sure but Reinhart is still the best player involved seeing as Kessel is rather old at this point. Wookie, as you said previously, you’ve gotten better at your valuation but it’s still startling to see you criticize some bazaar trade scenario, even when you are 100% correct. 2 3
inkman Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, tom webster said: Wookie, as you said previously, you’ve gotten better at your valuation but it’s still startling to see you criticize some bazaar trade scenario, even when you are 100% correct. Brings a tear to my eye seeing how far out little Wookiee has come 1 4
MODO Hockey Posted October 16, 2020 Report Posted October 16, 2020 This is @Brawndo friday afternoon on his way to diggsite, i wish you the best of luck @Brawndo 1
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