Brawndo Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) Flat cap of 81.5 Million for next two seasons Escrow capped at 20% Edited July 10, 2020 by Brawndo Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 Well that means Reinhart isn't getting over 7. Two seasons makes sense as they are going to lose a ton from this season and next season. Maybe they will finally fix NHL Center Ice to not suck. 1 1 Quote
Hank Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 2:55 PM, LGR4GM said: Well that means Reinhart isn't getting over 7. Two seasons makes sense as they are going to lose a ton from this season and next season. Maybe they will finally fix NHL Center Ice to not suck. Expand Just curious, what issues were you having with NHL center ice? I've found the best way to stream it is on Roku. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 3:00 PM, Hank said: Just curious, what issues were you having with NHL center ice? I've found the best way to stream it is on Roku. Expand I have been blacked out for no reason before. I did not have it this past season however so maybe it has improved. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 2:53 PM, Brawndo said: Flat cap of 81.5 Million for next two seasons Escrow capped at 20% Expand Does this mean the players voted in favour of the 4 year extension? Quote
tom webster Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 3:05 PM, New Scotland (NS) said: Does this mean the players voted in favour of the 4 year extension? Expand Not yet and vote is expected to be very close. 2 Quote
Thorner Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 2:55 PM, LGR4GM said: Well that means Reinhart isn't getting over 7. Two seasons makes sense as they are going to lose a ton from this season and next season. Maybe they will finally fix NHL Center Ice to not suck. Expand It's still on the table. Quote
Brawndo Posted July 2, 2020 Author Report Posted July 2, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 2:55 PM, LGR4GM said: Well that means Reinhart isn't getting over 7. Two seasons makes sense as they are going to lose a ton from this season and next season. Maybe they will finally fix NHL Center Ice to not suck. Expand Only concern is that’s Samson 6th and 7th Accured Seasons and he can walk to UFA Quote
Thorner Posted July 2, 2020 Report Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) On 7/2/2020 at 9:11 PM, Brawndo said: Only concern is that’s Samson 6th and 7th Accured Seasons and he can walk to UFA Expand Two seasons makes zero sense for a contract, I'm assuming he meant the 2-season projection of a flat-cap. Unless you are thinking the flat-cap assists that walking-to-UFA situation for Sam. Edited July 2, 2020 by Thorny Quote
Brawndo Posted July 3, 2020 Author Report Posted July 3, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 10:50 PM, Thorny said: Two seasons makes zero sense for a contract, I'm assuming he meant the 2-season projection of a flat-cap. Unless you are thinking the flat-cap assists that walking-to-UFA situation for Sam. Expand Liger is way smarter than me on hockey stuff, so that’s probably what he meant. Quote
Broken Ankles Posted July 4, 2020 Report Posted July 4, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 3:05 PM, New Scotland (NS) said: Does this mean the players voted in favour of the 4 year extension? Expand According to the story in the Athletic https://theathletic.com/1909008/2020/07/03/all-the-details-of-the-current-framework-for-the-nhls-new-cba-agreement/?source=user_shared_article It it will go to the players this week for a vote. Interestingly absent from the agreement is compliance or amnesty buyouts. So if the terms are accurate and there is new min salary of $750k and the Cap will not increase for two years, and no team has a compliance buyout, how can it not be more advantageous than ever to have the amount of Cap space the Sabres possess? Yes, rookie GM and all, but he should be able to force a trade with a desperate team. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 This appears to be happening ... https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/1280256660137824258/photo/1 1 1 Quote
Drag0nDan Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 3:04 PM, LGR4GM said: I have been blacked out for no reason before. I did not have it this past season however so maybe it has improved. Expand Yeah, i live in buffalo so i was always under the impression that i was supposed to watch games on MSG. But i have a fios non-sports package so i don't get MSG. On 7/4/2020 at 9:47 PM, Broken Ankles said: According to the story in the Athletic https://theathletic.com/1909008/2020/07/03/all-the-details-of-the-current-framework-for-the-nhls-new-cba-agreement/?source=user_shared_article It it will go to the players this week for a vote. Interestingly absent from the agreement is compliance or amnesty buyouts. So if the terms are accurate and there is new min salary of $750k and the Cap will not increase for two years, and no team has a compliance buyout, how can it not be more advantageous than ever to have the amount of Cap space the Sabres possess? Yes, rookie GM and all, but he should be able to force a trade with a desperate team. Expand Interesting thought. A fair amount of the space will go to reinhart ullmark montour and oloffson. I'd be wary on taking on too much bad money (we already have okposo and skinner) or too much term (looming dahlin extension), but i think there's some players out there who will need to get moved. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 5:20 PM, Drag0nDan said: Yeah, i live in buffalo so i was always under the impression that i was supposed to watch games on MSG. But i have a fios non-sports package so i don't get MSG. Interesting thought. A fair amount of the space will go to reinhart ullmark montour and oloffson. I'd be wary on taking on too much bad money (we already have okposo and skinner) or too much term (looming dahlin extension), but i think there's some players out there who will need to get moved. Expand I'd trade montour. 1 Quote
Drag0nDan Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 5:30 PM, LGR4GM said: I'd trade montour. Expand yeah - the problem is you have to have a team that needs a puck moving D, while also needing to shed salary. Quote
WildCard Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 5:31 PM, Drag0nDan said: yeah - the problem is you have to have a team that needs a puck moving D, while also needing to shed salary. Expand There's no shortage of those Quote
Drag0nDan Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 5:41 PM, WildCard said: There's no shortage of those Expand yeah - i just don't know what buffalo gets back. I'm honestly kind of OK with a prospect and a pick. Quote
Broken Ankles Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) On 7/8/2020 at 5:31 PM, Drag0nDan said: yeah - the problem is you have to have a team that needs a puck moving D, while also needing to shed salary. Expand Here are the top 11 Right handed D-men heading into free agency next season. Not all are necessarily "puck-moving", but the top available by AAV. The Sabres have two factors working in their favor for trading Montour: 1.) He is the only RFA in this list, which means cost controlled. In a year where every team is looking to shed Cap, Montour's contract over the next 2-3 years will be far less than those above him. If he files arbitration what could he make next season? $3.5m-$3.75m? 2.) It't likely that the UFA's sign long term deals and select a city they want to raise kids in and/or potentially retire from. What if Winnipeg or another city vying for one of these UFA's is a city where they have no interest in playing? The UFA's have the negotiating collateral. Montour has extremely little. I have a feeling he will be traded and his return will surprise some. Edited July 8, 2020 by Broken Ankles 1 Quote
dudacek Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 I’d like to have someone with an analytics bent show me whether Montour’s +13 in 54 games is irrelevant. It’s the best total put up by any Sabre by a fair margin since 2011. Also, why do people think Montour isn’t a good fit with Ralph when Ralph used him more than any defenceman other than Risto, despite the fact Montour wasn’t a go-to guy on either special team? Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 9:11 PM, dudacek said: I’d like to have someone with an analytics bent show me whether Montour’s +13 in 54 games is irrelevant. It’s the best total put up by any Sabre by a fair margin since 2011. Also, why do people think Montour isn’t a good fit with Ralph when Ralph used him more than any defenceman other than Risto, despite the fact Montour wasn’t a go-to guy on either special team? Expand To be clear I am not trading Montour because he is awful. I suggested it because they have stated they love Risto and Miller is already signed and Joki ain't going nowhere. Quote
Taro T Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 10:00 PM, LGR4GM said: To be clear I am not trading Montour because he is awful. I suggested it because they have stated they love Risto and Miller is already signed and Joki ain't going nowhere. Expand As long as Krueger is the HC, would expect Ristolainen & Jokiharju are here for the duration. But would expect Miller traded out before Montour was. (Even though Montour brings back a larger haul & still believe Risto has more value than any of those 4. Really think Risto needs to be part of the 2C package to get a guy that adequately fills that hole.) 2 Quote
PalmTreeMafia Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 11:22 PM, Taro T said: As long as Krueger is the HC, would expect Ristolainen & Jokiharju are here for the duration. But would expect Miller traded out before Montour was. (Even though Montour brings back a larger haul & still believe Risto has more value than any of those 4. Really think Risto needs to be part of the 2C package to get a guy that adequately fills that hole.) Expand If neither Montour nor Risto brings back a 2C in return, then Miller is likely to be traded since we would already have our top 3 RHD's (Jokiharju, Risto, Montour). In that case, Dahlin, Jokiharju, and Montour are the 3 protected d-men for the Seattle draft because I doubt Seattle would select Risto with his 1-year $5.4 million contract. Quote
Ducky Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 Reinhart doesn't deserve 7m....barely over 6m if you ask me. Quote
Ducky Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) I have heard that trades can no longer rely on whether a player re-signs or not. For example...A deal cannot say if this player re-signs with you, we get x. Edited July 8, 2020 by Ducky Quote
Thorner Posted July 8, 2020 Report Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 11:43 PM, Ducky said: Reinhart doesn't deserve 7m....barely over 6m if you ask me. Expand Are you using Ehlers as a comparable? From that perspective, I agree. A little over 6 would seem fair. But I’d argue the Jets got a strong value contract with that deal and I don’t see that happening with the Sabres in this case. 1 Quote
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