More Members of Sabres Hockey Ops are being let go

[Brawndo]

 

 

John Vogl also confirms 

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, Brawndo said:

 

 

John Vogl also confirms 

If we had reason to believe there were better people that were going to be brought in, that would be one thing.  But, after the Zoom meeting, this seems like simply letting people go.  Even with a net reduction in the size of the hockey department, that wouldn't be depressing g if we had reason to believe top people were coming in.

[darksabre]

I can't say it doesn't feel like they're just trying to cut salary to help the bottom line while hockey is essentially paused. Nothing to really scout, nothing to really manage. 

[SDS]

2 minutes ago, darksabre said:

I can't say it doesn't feel like they're just trying to cut salary to help the bottom line while hockey is essentially paused. Nothing to really scout, nothing to really manage. 

I know people wanted to hear something traditional, but Terry was very clear that the team’s finances were a primary driver in all this. The entire PC was about financials. 

[DarthEbriate]

6 minutes ago, darksabre said:

I can't say it doesn't feel like they're just trying to cut salary to help the bottom line while hockey is essentially paused. Nothing to really scout, nothing to really manage. 

I don't like it as the last thing anyone else needs in a global recession and pandemic is to lose their job. But the scouts really won't have work to do for the foreseeable future. And it does give an opportunity to clean house and build a new scouting department later. Strictly on the bottom line, this makes sense for the next however-many-months. It's just a matter of how lean the franchise gets in the coming months. For example, does it extend to RFAs and we don't re-sign anyone for months, don't make a trade, and just wait it out. Or lose players because other teams negotiate with the RFAs. (And no one is taking Sam for 4 1st round picks.)

[In The Buff]

I would've preferred firing Jbotts because of the performance of the team. But now it appears it was at the very least partly due to him being opposed to these other staff cuts & the firings with the Amerks. So now Jbotts is a martyr?

[SDS]

1 minute ago, In The Buff said:

I would've preferred firing Jbotts because of the performance of the team. But now it appears it was at the very least partly due to him being opposed to these other staff cuts & the firings with the Amerks. So now Jbotts is a martyr?

Who said he was opposed to this?

[nfreeman]

1 minute ago, In The Buff said:

I would've preferred firing Jbotts because of the performance of the team. But now it appears it was at the very least partly due to him being opposed to these other staff cuts & the firings with the Amerks. So now Jbotts is a martyr?

What is this based on?

[LGR4GM]

Is the entire scouting staff gone too?

[In The Buff]

5 minutes ago, SDS said:

Who said he was opposed to this?

 

5 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

What is this based on?

This article here talks about what changed over the past 3 weeks. Goes into the discussions JB had with the Pegs about the restructuring plans & him being opposed to them. Maybe its just WGR messing with me but if u follow the course of events it seems probable his firing was at least due in part to those "philosophical differences" in this restructuring plan.

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/buffalo-sabres-decide-to-start-over-once-again-1.1486570

[That Aud Smell]

Aye yi yi.

Who's gonna turn the lights off?

[Brawndo]

 

[Stoner]

Jeanneret's pillow just got Febrezed and escorted out by one of the Pegula kids in a SECURITY t-shirt. That or I ate one too many edible brownies last hour.

[DarthEbriate]

So, if teams start cancelling their contracts with video scouting services to save money, and there's no hockey for a season, how long do those companies stay afloat? And how quickly can they spin back up when junior hockey returns?

[Stoner]

4 minutes ago, In The Buff said:

 

This article here talks about what changed over the past 3 weeks. Goes into the discussions JB had with the Pegs about the restructuring plans & him being opposed to them. Maybe its just WGR messing with me but if u follow the course of events it seems probable his firing was at least due in part to those "philosophical differences" in this restructuring plan.

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/buffalo-sabres-decide-to-start-over-once-again-1.1486570

If so, then none of this is the general manager's doing. He's just the guy who agreed to take the job and let it happen. Which might explain why they didn't/couldn't do a proper job search.

[SDS]

5 minutes ago, In The Buff said:

 

This article here talks about what changed over the past 3 weeks. Goes into the discussions JB had with the Pegs about the restructuring plans & him being opposed to them. Maybe its just WGR messing with me but if u follow the course of events it seems probable his firing was at least due in part to those "philosophical differences" in this restructuring plan.

https://www.tsn.ca/talent/buffalo-sabres-decide-to-start-over-once-again-1.1486570

That piece passed the smell test.

[That Aud Smell]

For feck's sake.

The philosophical difference was Botterill's reluctance to oversee a gutting of hockey ops?

Sorry - a process of making hockey ops leaner and more efficient?

[Randall Flagg]

13 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

For feck's sake.

The philosophical difference was Botterill's reluctance to oversee a gutting of hockey ops?

Sorry - a process of making hockey ops leaner and more efficient?

Lol they aren't even firing him for the things he's terrible at

[Trettioåtta]

How has Devine survived?

He was the scouting guru when we scouted poorly, and he is now the player development guy when we have developed guys poorly.

I'm intrigued what the wino has on the Pegulas

[bob_sauve28]

1 hour ago, Taro T said:

If we had reason to believe there were better people that were going to be brought in, that would be one thing.  But, after the Zoom meeting, this seems like simply letting people go.  Even with a net reduction in the size of the hockey department, that wouldn't be depressing g if we had reason to believe top people were coming in.

I think it's the new sports economics kicking in. The team--well, all teams--don't know where the money is going to come from next 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, SDS said:

Who said he was opposed to this?

 

[In The Buff]

[Tondas]

2 hours ago, SDS said:

I know people wanted to hear something traditional, but Terry was very clear that the team’s finances were a primary driver in all this. The entire PC was about financials. 

I guess it's not as easy to "just dig another well" as it used to be.

[Weave]

Ole Sugar Packets is back to haunt us.  Next thing we are gonna hear is Terry whining about the gulls shitting on his yacht.

[Getpucksdeep]

Are Duff, Ray, and Biron safe? Man this is a mess.