Randall Flagg Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, shrader said: They can pick apart Buffalo but no one else in the league. I wouldn't call that the gold standard. I really don't expect anything positive to happen there as long as Melnyk is the owner. I fully expect him to complete that forensic analysis of Matt Cooke's skate before he gets his head out of his ass. That said, if they do free themselves from him, then all bets are off. Historically they can put together really good teams, but can't keep them together once players reach UFA age. All on ice indicators show me that this is about to happen again. I wish I could say so much about buffalo And it can pick apart other teams, including good ones. Their roster was still bad and young so they haven't achieved consistency yet. It's coming Edited June 16, 2020 by Randall Flagg
PromoTheRobot Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, dudacek said: Edges you are ***** terrible at your job, everyone can see it. How the hell can anyone expect any decision you ever make to work? That question? He should be fired for representing his newspaper like that. I thought Kim handled it better than I would. They gave him the second question of the presser, right after Wawrow. And he does that? Wow. 42 minutes ago, Norcal said: Are we happy? There was no move that would have made anyone happy. Maybe Pegs selling the team?
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Chabot is gonna win Norrises. They dont have an Eichel level forward but they will very quickly have a deep forward pool with plenty of good players. They already play a speed game that picks us apart and have demonstrated an ability to frustrate eichel more than most teams I've seen. The 4 goal game notwithstanding Wait until they have byfield and someone 1
Hawerchuk Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 Was Assistant Coach, Steve Smith, fired too? I did a search but couldn't find anything on this thread. Thanks in advance.
LabattBlue Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hawerchuk said: Was Assistant Coach, Steve Smith, fired too? I did a search but couldn't find anything on this thread. Thanks in advance. No. That is Kruegers buddy. Smith and his ***** PK are safe for now Edited June 16, 2020 by LabattBlue 1
kas23 Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Cascade Youth said: ...Botterill never set up an effective pro personnel/amateur scouting operation. Disagree. Botterill definitely set up an amateur scouting operation. 4 1
shrader Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Wait until they have byfield and someone The lottery can change that quite a bit though. A few bad bounces there and they fall back a bit. Until something different happens, for me they fall firmly into the "they'll find a way to screw it up" camp. Buffalo's there as well, but they already have their stud player and he's locked up long term. No one's there yet in Ottawa. edit: And on another note, I really wasn't paying one bit of attention to the standings for a while. I didn't realize just how far San Jose fell. Edited June 16, 2020 by shrader
Ruff Around The Edges Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: You can make a case that the Sabres are the worst-run franchise in the NHL, but the Senators alone make it a close contest. True, but if the lottery is kind to Ottawa where they could possibly get the Top 2 picks in the draft or even 2 of the Top 5 after the Erik Karlsson debacle of a trade for SJ, that perception will also change in an instant.
Torpedo Forecheck Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Kim said its a results business and that's what I want to see. I could care less about what is said, too much emphasis by some on that aspect. Verbal IQ ....jeez give me a break.? Let's see what happens, that is what we should be after not words and flowery language. Some of the good GMs in this league barely made it out of HS. Edited June 16, 2020 by Torpedo Forecheck
Popular Post Ruff Around The Edges Posted June 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Tough question? He raised his voice and called her incompetent! She may well be but that's inappropriate behavior from a journalist. He crossed a line there. I hear you about Harrington, I personally think Mike Harrington is a classless punk, the true definition of an Internet Tough Guy, but this is the one time where, given the ineptitude of the Sabres over the past decade, where a guy like Mike is actually useful at a time like this to be that guy to cross the line. The Peguals need to know loud and clear: Kim may have the heart in the right place, but she is in way over her head. 'The Pegula Honeymoon' is way way over. 7 3
Billnutinhouston Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 9 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said: Paul Hamilton - the master of telling you after the fact that he saw "this" coming, but never hinting at it or predicting anything in advance.
kas23 Posted June 16, 2020 Report Posted June 16, 2020 8 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: The owner's vote of confidence is rarely a good thing. It could have as easily have been "JBot is our GM. We wanted to wait for the NHL's decision on handling the season and playoffs for this year, and then we'll do a full end-of-year review with GM JBot and other members of our staff, just like we always do." It didn't need to include anything about unpopularity with fans or we know some inner information... It's ok to say "We're taking our time" especially this year where everything was in flux and still is, season/playoff/draft-wise. I watched a great talk recently on how to spot untruthfulness that was given by an ex-CIA. Of course, there’s always the body language thing, but there’s also the “too much information” thing. This is where the person starts giving information outside of the question that was asked in order to try to convince or distract. I think the “we have a little bit more information than maybe a fan does, some inner workings that we see some positives in” statement immediately comes to mind. It was an unnecessary thing to say. This wasn’t a decision made in the last 3 weeks.
SDS Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, kas23 said: I watched a great talk recently on how to spot untruthfulness that was given by an ex-CIA. Of course, there’s always the body language thing, but there’s also the “too much information” thing. This is where the person starts giving information outside of the question that was asked in order to try to convince or distract. I think the “we have a little bit more information than maybe a fan does, some inner workings that we see some positives in” statement immediately comes to mind. It was an unnecessary thing to say. This wasn’t a decision made in the last 3 weeks. The information appears to be on the financial side. The decision was to scale things down. Botterill did not agree. The decision let him go appears to be new. I think the financial story makes total sense and there is no lying, just not divulging details. 1
Tondas Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a vow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday And I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again 3 2
Radar Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 I'm totally on board..........sell the team Terry. Now we're entering a period of penny pinching combined with total incompetence.
Zamboni Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, GoPre said: Darcy was not kidding.... Great t-shirt. You’d probably sell a good 500 shirts. Especially at a $12 price point. 1
Stoner Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, SDS said: The information appears to be on the financial side. The decision was to scale things down. Botterill did not agree. The decision let him go appears to be new. I think the financial story makes total sense and there is no lying, just not divulging details. The quote is from when Kim announced that Jason would return. She said something very similar today, but I don't recall what the context of the comment was.
Weave Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Tondas said: I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a vow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday And I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. 6
kas23 Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 48 minutes ago, SDS said: The information appears to be on the financial side. The decision was to scale things down. Botterill did not agree. The decision let him go appears to be new. I think the financial story makes total sense and there is no lying, just not divulging details. I’m not talking about lying, yet rather not disclosing the truth. I think there’s a difference, because I’m certainly not going to call the Pegulas liars. They are not, but they are also not required to give fans the truth. Over the last hour, I watched the press conference. It was full of evading the truth. This is OK. I guess I don’t fully understand the financial story. Are the Pegulas heading to the poor house soon? They certain can’t dig another well given oil and gas prices. Are we heading towards a sequestration (ie suffering)?
LGR4GM Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 I just don't see a direction. Being unable to articulate a path forward in that presser made me more concerned about the time. Hearing why Adams got the job is concerning. It's just more flailing.
SDS Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I just don't see a direction. Being unable to articulate a path forward in that presser made me more concerned about the time. Hearing why Adams got the job is concerning. It's just more flailing. Not to be jerk, but I think you missed the entire message of the PC. You want to hear how they think they are going to win the Stanley Cup. That wasn’t their message. That is not what they wanted to tell us. And they didn’t. The direction, at least in the short term, is to reduce costs of this organization. They didn’t speak hockey. They talked financials the entire time.
Andrew Amerk Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 This may sound like a sarcastic question, but it’s not. If Tim and Kerry broke up tomorrow, would Kim still stay as President? Is she that qualified and good at what she’s doing? Or would the new gf become the new Prez? 2
SDS Posted June 17, 2020 Report Posted June 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Let's Go B-Lo said: I mean, they've spent a ton of money to be terrible. Why not spend less money to be terrible? Absolutely. If there isn’t any gratification of getting the accolades from winning, then the money they are spending at the moment is foolish. And maybe when they had $5 billion and they only had the Sabres that wasn’t an issue. Now it’s an issue.
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