steveoath Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: The day I listen to Joe Rogan for information is the day my mind has gone for good. To be fair, the other guy is the one you should be listening to.... 1
Cascade Youth Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Huckleberry said: I don't look at this as a country doing this, the real power isn't with the countries but with the multinationals. Please, stop, this is insane. The length people go to believe crazy crap like this, as opposed to what is right in front of their face, scientificly proven, and driving right at them like a freight train, is simply amazing. Edited March 13, 2020 by Cascade Youth 1
MODO Hockey Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Eleven said: Check out @MODO Hockey on twitter for an explanation that is unwelcome here. huh?
ubkev Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Eleven said: Apparently we will not be saved by Psalm 91. That's because you're Catholic. 1
TheAud Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 Based on some of the comments on this board I'm surprised the stores are not also out of aluminum foil as well as toilet paper. You know, for hats. 2
Curt Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Huckleberry said: I don't think China did all that much tbh. The hospital they build was just a huge quarantined zone with 4 walls and some beds. They still didn't have enough room for all the sick and a lot died at home. China was also really late in containing and reporting this outbreak. The “hospitals” are the least of what I’m talking about. They told everyone to stay home. Closed businesses. Instituted curfews. Essentially locking down major cities. Stuff like that. Im not saying that China did a wonderful job initially handling the outbreak. However, the resulting steps that they felt were necessary should be an indication that their situation was in fact serious.
Claude_Verret Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sakman said: Based on some of the comments on this board I'm surprised the stores are not also out of aluminum foil as well as toilet paper. You know, for hats. I'll make a prediction. When this is all said and done, this event will provide a gold mine of data for researchers studying human psychology and panic in the age of the 24/7 news cycle and pervasive social media as compared to what it provides for infectious disease epidemiologists studying pandemics. 2
Claude_Verret Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Just heard on the news that Roche got approved for covid19 testing yesterday that has a faster time to result of about 3 hours. I'm guessing that they developed reagents for a diagnostic test using their isothermal PCR technology. Edit: sounds like this is it. Traditional PCR depends on thermocycling, rapidly raising and lowering the temp of the reaction to amplify the target sequence. This test is done at a constant temperature https://chemrxiv.org/articles/A_Single_and_Two-Stage_Closed-Tube_Molecular_Test_for_the_2019_Novel_Coronavirus_COVID-19_at_Home_Clinic_and_Points_of_Entry/11860137 We describe here a rapid, highly sensitive, point-of-care, molecular test amenable for use at home, in the clinic, and at points of entry by minimally trained individuals and with minimal instrumentation. Our test is based on loop mediated isothermal amplification (COVID-19 LAMP) and for higher sensitivity on nested nucleic acid, two stage isothermal amplification (COVID-19 Penn-RAMP). Both tests can be carried out in closed tubes with either fluorescence or colorimetric (e.g., leuco crystal violet LCV) detection. Edited March 13, 2020 by Claude_Verret
darksabre Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, Sakman said: Based on some of the comments on this board I'm surprised the stores are not also out of aluminum foil as well as toilet paper. You know, for hats. Yes, blame the people who are concerned for their loved ones. Definitely don't blame the complete lack of leadership or reliable information sources. Definitely don't blame the fact that actual news has been nearly completely replaced with entertainment punditry that ranks anywhere from inane to extremely dangerous. People are freaked out because it's very obvious that the people we look to for guidance, reassurance, and solutions in these situations are inept, cruel, untrustworthy, or all of the above. No tin foil required. 3
Huckleberry Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Cascade Youth said: Please, stop, this is insane. The length people go to believe crazy crap like this, as opposed to what is right in front of their face, scientificly proven, and driving right at them like a freight train, is simply amazing. What is proven ? really nothing is proven with this new virus. They are just starting to figure it out and most scientists make contradicting claims. Last week it was nothing to worry about, only a small flu, now those same guys say we need to go on lockdown.
Zamboni Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 https://informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/covid-19-coronavirus-infographic-datapack/?fbclid=IwAR1MZ2_61IhtWFKjSwTpGs-Rqg3sutRekgG2R8P2_FXCQhvOEgDDNNdd-Dc some tracking charts and graphs. Easy to digest ...
North Buffalo Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 3-4 cases at hospital I work at last nite in New Rochelle had to xray 3 of the 4... Edited March 13, 2020 by North Buffalo
Zamboni Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 Just now, North Buffalo said: 3-4 cases at hospital I work at had to xray 3 of the 4... Your in ... was it Long Island?
darksabre Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, North Buffalo said: 3-4 cases at hospital I work at last nite in New Rochelle had to xray 3 of the 4... NB, can I ask the ages of the individuals? Just curious if you're seeing any trends on the ground.
Claude_Verret Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: What is proven ? really nothing is proven with this new virus. They are just starting to figure it out and most scientists make contradicting claims. Last week it was nothing to worry about, only a small flu, now those same guys say we need to go on lockdown. The reason you hear contradicting claims from doctors and scientists is because individually they dont know where this is going. It could end up being a worst case scenario or it could up up largely fizzling out. Nobody knows. However, you hear no contradictory information from these people on what we can actually control like personal hygiene and social distancing. Everyone should be concerned, this is serious. Everyone should be concerned about flu as well as that is serious too. The concern should be commensurate with the risk, which for most people remains pretty low.
Stoner Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 Peggy Noonan writes, "Wash your face." Hadn't thought of it and hadn't heard it. Makes perfect sense. For @Neo, the mention of Peggy brings slightly different advice: take a cold shower. On 3/12/2020 at 1:01 AM, Scottysabres said: My wife's sister is at Millard Suburban, 2 patients currently confirmed, one in serious condition, she's being tested as I type this. I work at Oxy, as a permanently assigned contractor, plant makes base products for hand sanitizer, bleach, and of course, Chlorine, a majority of which helps clean a large percentage of the nations drinking water. Major meeting today on this. There is concern. If you still believe this to be overblown, PM me. You'll be surprised. Buffalo News says no confirmed cases in WNY.
darksabre Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Peggy Noonan writes, "Wash your face." Hadn't thought of it and hadn't heard it. Makes perfect sense. For @Neo, the mention of Peggy brings slightly different advice: take a cold shower. Buffalo News says no confirmed cases in WNY. 1
Cascade Youth Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: What is proven ? really nothing is proven with this new virus. They are just starting to figure it out and most scientists make contradicting claims. Last week it was nothing to worry about, only a small flu, now those same guys say we need to go on lockdown. The idea that the virus was invented and disseminated by a secret group of "multinationals" (which, throughout history, usually means Jewish bankers, but not saying you meant it that way) is not only insane, it's extremely unhelpful and downright harmful. If political takes aren't allowed, I respectfully submit that lunatic conspiracy theories shouldn't be allowed either. Please. 2
ubkev Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 I've been out of my office for a total of 20 minutes today. Normally I spend anywhere between 2 and 5 hours on the gaming floor. No chance! 1
darksabre Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, ubkev said: I've been out of my office for a total of 20 minutes today. Normally I spend anywhere between 2 and 5 hours on the gaming floor. No chance! A casino has got to be in the top 10 worst places to be right now lol
Zamboni Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 Just read some idiot just got banned for life from JetBlue because he told the flight crew after his flight that he was tested positive for the coronavirus. Jerk.
ubkev Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, darksabre said: A casino has got to be in the top 10 worst places to be right now lol Sucks, man. Grave shift is the only silver lining. But all the college kids are out of school so the dumb dumbs come here! Tomorrow I won't have the luxury of hiding in my office. I'm going to be throwing people out left and right. Anyone who coughs is getting the hook from security.
shrader Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, darksabre said: Yes, blame the people who are concerned for their loved ones. Definitely don't blame the complete lack of leadership or reliable information sources. Definitely don't blame the fact that actual news has been nearly completely replaced with entertainment punditry that ranks anywhere from inane to extremely dangerous. People are freaked out because it's very obvious that the people we look to for guidance, reassurance, and solutions in these situations are inept, cruel, untrustworthy, or all of the above. No tin foil required. I'm pretty sure he's responding to the whackjob conspiracy theories that were being floated around by someone living in another country. So most of us here can't really speak for the information sources available there.
MattPie Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Sakman said: Based on some of the comments on this board I'm surprised the stores are not also out of aluminum foil as well as toilet paper. You know, for hats. I find reflective mylar (like in those emergency blankets) works nearly as well and reduces neck strain. 1 hour ago, Huckleberry said: What is proven ? really nothing is proven with this new virus. They are just starting to figure it out and most scientists make contradicting claims. Last week it was nothing to worry about, only a small flu, now those same guys say we need to go on lockdown. Respectfully, the only people who weren't worried last week were wrong or trying to calm people down.
Scottysabres Posted March 13, 2020 Report Posted March 13, 2020 46 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Peggy Noonan writes, "Wash your face." Hadn't thought of it and hadn't heard it. Makes perfect sense. For @Neo, the mention of Peggy brings slightly different advice: take a cold shower. Buffalo News says no confirmed cases in WNY. Some patient from Monroe County, she wasn't at the same facility but another health worker was, so they tested all for potential, she was cleared last night.
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