Ogre Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 6:13 PM, nfreeman said: I wish there were less animus in your post Expand And I wish that I had eyebrows but we play the cards we are dealt. Also a post besides the one that was moved disappeared last night. Correctly or not, I assumed it was you.
Ogre Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 And a dart is thrown at an empty wall. The fearless can still know angst. Instead of being consumed they can master it and operate freely within its realm. True story.
nfreeman Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 8:13 PM, Ogre said: Also a post besides the one that was moved disappeared last night. Correctly or not, I assumed it was you. Expand It wasn't, and all you had to do was ask.
Eleven Posted July 18, 2020 Report Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 7:07 PM, North Buffalo said: BTW Re mask wearing and O2: Not sure how accurate but would debunk anti maskers. Though I do think some folks get anxiety wearing masks that can cause them to breath heavier making it feel like its a problem. Still if you get used to it not a big deal. Expand I keep clicking on your video, but it's a still.
North Buffalo Posted July 19, 2020 Report Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 10:57 PM, Eleven said: I keep clicking on your video, but it's a still. Expand weird
shrader Posted July 19, 2020 Report Posted July 19, 2020 Are sedatives good for covid? This thread could use some. 2
SABRES 0311 Posted July 19, 2020 Report Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 1:02 AM, shrader said: Are sedatives good for covid? This thread could use some. Expand
Eleven Posted July 19, 2020 Report Posted July 19, 2020 Dr, Anthony Fauci, who IS NOT A POLITICIAN, has praised NYS for the job we've done. I again ask those from other states to refrain from visiting right now: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/18/fauci-holds-up-new-york-as-model-for-fighting-coronavirus-they-did-it-correctly.html 1
nfreeman Posted July 19, 2020 Report Posted July 19, 2020 Moved a few posts into the politics club. Again: discussion of government responses to the virus goes in the politics club.
Stoner Posted July 19, 2020 Report Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 4:34 PM, nfreeman said: Moved a few posts into the politics club. Again: discussion of government responses to the virus goes in the politics club. Expand Can we talk about the vaccine here?
nfreeman Posted July 19, 2020 Report Posted July 19, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 7:46 PM, PASabreFan said: Can we talk about the vaccine here? Expand Yes please.
SABRES 0311 Posted July 19, 2020 Report Posted July 19, 2020 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html The link talks about different types of coronaviruses. If/when a vaccine becomes available is it only for this type of virus? If so does it become annually available like the flu shot?
sabresparaavida Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 8:03 PM, SABRES 0311 said: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html The link talks about different types of coronaviruses. If/when a vaccine becomes available is it only for this type of virus? If so does it become annually available like the flu shot? Expand I (a completely uniformed person, so take this with a grain of salt) would think that the vaccine wouldn't be annually available like the flu shot. There have been Corona viruses for years, such that the majority of people in the world have had it before, and most have similar effects to the common cold. These did not require vaccines back then, and I don't see why they should now, unless new strains are rapidly emerging. 1
Eleven Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 12:15 AM, sabresparaavida said: I (a completely uniformed person, so take this with a grain of salt) would think that the vaccine wouldn't be annually available like the flu shot. There have been Corona viruses for years, such that the majority of people in the world have had it before, and most have similar effects to the common cold. These did not require vaccines back then, and I don't see why they should now, unless new strains are rapidly emerging. Expand I'm as uninformed as you, but some years, the flu vaccine isn't as effective because of the strain of flu, right?
sabresparaavida Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 12:16 AM, Eleven said: I'm as uninformed as you, but some years, the flu vaccine isn't as effective because of the strain of flu, right? Expand Basically, the flu vaccine is made with the scientists predicting which strain is going to be most prevalent. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes there's a couple strains that get pretty big. It's a guessing game predicting the spread of viruses a long time in the future.
Eleven Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 12:19 AM, sabresparaavida said: Basically, the flu vaccine is made with the scientists predicting which strain is going to be most prevalent. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes there's a couple strains that get pretty big. It's a guessing game predicting the spread of viruses a long time in the future. Expand I'll still get the flu vax every year, and I'll get a COVID vax if one is available, but I'm going to treat it more carefully than Botterill evaluating trade returns for O'Reilly. 1
Ogre Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 8:03 PM, SABRES 0311 said: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html The link talks about different types of coronaviruses. If/when a vaccine becomes available is it only for this type of virus? If so does it become annually available like the flu shot? Expand Only one of those corona viruses on that list is the one causing the pandemic. #7 That is why they are linking it. It is the one that is prevalent. They don’t want to confuse people so they’re leading you in the right direction. I’m guessing the focus is on a vaccine for that one, the one that is causing our pandemic but what do I know? As for the frequency of vaccination, how can we know until enough time has passed to have enough data to even judge how long immunity lasts. Unfortunately the CDC, from which you’ve linked, doesn’t receive the data any more. I won’t say where it goes now for obvious reasons. BTW. NIOSH, CDC, all great resources. Tried and true regardless of what the twitter monster tells you. Their stats have helped me convince many a young person to wear the PPE and be safe. Thanks for linking to them. 1
freester Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 12:15 AM, sabresparaavida said: I (a completely uniformed person, so take this with a grain of salt) would think that the vaccine wouldn't be annually available like the flu shot. There have been Corona viruses for years, such that the majority of people in the world have had it before, and most have similar effects to the common cold. These did not require vaccines back then, and I don't see why they should now, unless new strains are rapidly emerging. Expand There has never been an effective vaccine for a coronavirus.
SwampD Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) On 7/20/2020 at 3:09 AM, freester said: There has never been an effective vaccine for a coronavirus. Expand Look for some good news tomorrow. Edited July 20, 2020 by SwampD
JujuFish Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 3:09 AM, freester said: There has never been an effective vaccine for a coronavirus. Expand There has never been this level of concerted effort toward one.
Wyldnwoody44 Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 https://news.rpi.edu/content/2020/07/15/common-fda-approved-drug-may-effectively-neutralize-virus-causes-covid-19 I'm not sure why I'm adding to this thread, it's been nothing short of a crap show for the most part, I've also taken some months off and just mainly lurked, which has been, refreshing. But this is some info, regarding the virus and treatment that was sent to me by a college, read into it what you may. 4 1
Stoner Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 11:48 AM, Wyldnwoody44 said: https://news.rpi.edu/content/2020/07/15/common-fda-approved-drug-may-effectively-neutralize-virus-causes-covid-19 I'm not sure why I'm adding to this thread, it's been nothing short of a crap show for the most part, I've also taken some months off and just mainly lurked, which has been, refreshing. But this is some info, regarding the virus and treatment that was sent to me by a college, read into it what you may. Expand Potential treatment. Not much more than a hypothesis at the moment. On 7/19/2020 at 7:51 PM, nfreeman said: Yes please. Expand It's part of the government's response. Wouldn't it be better to just say there shall be no criticism of President Trump?
nfreeman Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 2:30 PM, PASabreFan said: It's part of the government's response. Wouldn't it be better to just say there shall be no criticism of President Trump? Expand The government isn't developing vaccines. And criticism, or praise, of any state or federal government official on this should go in the politics club. But thanks for your contribution to board comity.
Cascade Youth Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 It’s really challenging to talk about the biggest public health crisis in this country in 100 years without talking about the “public” portion of it...
LGR4GM Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) On 7/20/2020 at 3:42 PM, nfreeman said: The government isn't developing vaccines. And criticism, or praise, of any state or federal government official on this should go in the politics club. But thanks for your contribution to board comity. Expand ... they are partnering with vaccine developers so this is a stretch considering they are using Billions of tax payer dollars to help companies develop vaccines, I would certainly argue the government is part of developing vaccines. https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/05/21/trump-administration-accelerates-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-to-be-available-beginning-in-october.html https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/07/07/hhs-dod-collaborate-novavax-produce-millions-covid-19-investigational-vaccine-doses-commercial-scale-manufacturing-demonstration-projects.html https://www.npr.org/2020/07/07/888509957/federal-government-to-invest-over-2-billion-into-coronavirus-vaccine-development https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-launches-clinical-trials-network-test-covid-19-vaccines-other-prevention-tools Edited July 20, 2020 by LGR4GM 3
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