Trade: Wayne Simmonds to Sabres for a Conditional 2021 5th

[SwampD]

In conjunction with the other trade, I feel like this made us a better team.

[SABRES 0311]

16 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Olofsson - Eichel - Reinhart

Skinner - 2C - Johansson/ Thompson / Kahun

Kahun - Mittelstadt / Johansson - Cozens / Thompson

Girgensons - Larsson - Okposo

Spare Lazar / Asplund

This doesn't even have Vesey coming back though Krueger trusts him and he'll be relatively cheap.  Could truly see Botterill only trade for a 2C and sign a FA goalie this off-season.  Could also see that being enough if they're both the right guys.

I can see resigning Vesey then trying to package him for something. Then again maybe he stays. In a couple years Cozens fills the 2C and Mitts at 3C. Whoever we get for the immediate 2C is likely for two or three years. Just my guess. 

[Taro T]

Just now, SABRES 0311 said:

I can see resigning Vesey then trying to package him for something. Then again maybe he stays. In a couple years Cozens fills the 2C and Mitts at 3C. Whoever we get for the immediate 2C is likely for two or three years. Just my guess. 

They should definitely plan on needing the 2C they trade for for 2-3 seasons.  He can slide down the food chain as/if Mittelstadt and Cozens prove they're ready to step into expanded roles. 

[dudacek]

If it falls in the 10-20 range, I'm definitely flipping our top pick in the draft for our 2C, maybe even a little higher if the returning player is good enough.

Think Jeff Carter, Ryan O'Reilly, Brayden Schenn, Derek Stepan, JT Miller, Duchene (twice), Bobby Ryan, Ryan Kesler, Rick Nash, Jordan Staal...all acquired with a #1 as the best piece coming back. One of those trades happen every year and one will probably be available to us.

A lineup with Jack/Sam, Jeff/2C, Mojo/Kahuna and Larry/Girgs (if they resign) as the bedrock of each line should be good.

VO gets a top 6 spot, KO a bottom 6, Lazar gets the F13 spot

That leaves Asplund, Casey, Cozens, and Thompson battling a UFA signing for the final roster spots: likely the F6 and F9.

Edited February 26, 2020 by dudacek

[Carmel Corn]

45 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

I can see resigning Vesey then trying to package him for something. Then again maybe he stays. In a couple years Cozens fills the 2C and Mitts at 3C. Whoever we get for the immediate 2C is likely for two or three years. Just my guess. 

I don't expect Vesey to resign with Buffalo.  Whether we like him or not, I would be shocked if he wants to be back next year.

[Thorner]

12 minutes ago, dudacek said:

If it falls in the 10-20 range, I'm definitely flipping our top pick in the draft for our 2C, maybe even a little higher if the returning player is good enough.

Think Jeff Carter, Ryan O'Reilly, Brayden Schenn, Derek Stepan, JT Miller, Duchene (twice), Bobby Ryan, Ryan Kesler, Rick Nash, Jordan Staal...all acquired with a #1 as the best piece coming back. One of those trades happen every year and one will probably be available to us.

A lineup with Jack/Sam, Jeff/2C, Mojo/Kahuna and Larry/Girgs (if they resign) as the bedrock of each line should be good.

VO gets a top 6 spot, KO a bottom 6, Lazar gets the F13 spot

That leaves Asplund, Casey, Cozens, and Thompson battling a UFA signing battling for the final roster spots: likely the F6 and F9.

I'd have to be talked out of moving a non top-2/3 pick for a bonafide 2C. The likelihood of the pick even amounting to a legitimate 2C is probably less than 50%, and even that would be in SEVERAL years. Our window is opening right away if not now (Jack is in his prime) - I'd want to make the move. 

And I'm not talking a Trochek "likely" 2C.  If we are getting a Carter/ROR type, it's definitely worth the pick in my eyes. 

[Thorner]

Right now the 13th forward to me should be Frolik. Ok. 

But our 12th forward is arguably Jimmy Vesey. 

I don't like Jimmy, the hockey player. But, we have traveled a good portion of the way across The Desert. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

2 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Right now the 13th forward to me should be Frolik. Ok. 

But our 12th forward is arguably Jimmy Vesey. 

I don't like Jimmy, the hockey player. But, we have traveled a good portion of the way across The Desert. 

On a horse with no name

[dudacek]

17 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

On a horse with no name

 

[Randall Flagg]

I would try and trade first overall for a center. I would add to it to get an even better center, or a nice package from a team ready to blow it up. I would insist, call around, call around again. I'm not saying that deal is out there, but I'd try and find it. And as far as my willingness to trade goes, the difference between 3 and like 6 is basically zero for me.

 

[Eleven]

Someone seems happy to be here!

 

 

[inkman]

1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said:

I would try and trade first overall...

 

Even if the Sabres lose out, I don't think they'd pick first overall.  ?

[7+6=13]

4 hours ago, Thorny said:

I'd have to be talked out of moving a non top-2/3 pick for a bonafide 2C. The likelihood of the pick even amounting to a legitimate 2C is probably less than 50%, and even that would be in SEVERAL years. Our window is opening right away if not now (Jack is in his prime) - I'd want to make the move. 

And I'm not talking a Trochek "likely" 2C.  If we are getting a Carter/ROR type, it's definitely worth the pick in my eyes. 

I don't see how anyone could argue against this.

[LGR4GM]

7 hours ago, 7+6=13 said:

I don't see how anyone could argue against this.

I'll do it. Quinton Byfield. Marco Rossi. Thank you. 

[Stoner]

8 hours ago, Eleven said:

Someone seems happy to be here!

 

 

They love us! They really love us!

[shrader]

9 hours ago, Eleven said:

Someone seems happy to be here!

 

 

But you can't eat wings with those teeth.

[7+6=13]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

I'll do it. Quinton Byfield. Marco Rossi. Thank you. 

My comment was based on trading our 1st round pick for a legit 2C.

[#freejame]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

But you can't eat wings with those teeth.

Just shove them right in the ol’ gap and skin ‘em

[woods-racer]

21 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Just shove them right in the ol’ gap and skin ‘em

?

Edited February 26, 2020 by woods-racer

[#freejame]

3 minutes ago, woods-racer said:

?

Now there’s a woman who can skin some meat!

[7+6=13]

Watching the video of his interview now with Buffalo - I didn't know he waved a no trade clause to come here.  Sorry if it was said in this thread and I missed it but that meant something. 

[MakeSabresGrr8Again]

10 hours ago, shrader said:

But you can't eat wings with those teeth.

Not the same but....boneless ones he could.

[Zamboni]

25 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said:

Watching the video of his interview now with Buffalo - I didn't know he waved a no trade clause to come here.  Sorry if it was said in this thread and I missed it but that meant something. 

Yea it was mentioned on Monday. He liked the fact that he’ll be “closer to home”. Probably the main reason.

[shrader]

16 minutes ago, MakeSabresGrr8Again said:

Not the same but....boneless ones he could.

Any self respecting establishment in Buffalo selling those abominations needs to shut down immediately. 

[7+6=13]

54 minutes ago, Zamboni said:

Yea it was mentioned on Monday. He liked the fact that he’ll be “closer to home”. Probably the main reason.

I'm excited to see this guy.  He's put up nice numbers over his career.  I'd extend him if he shows something.  We really need some toughness.  I'm surprised most are kind of eh on him.

Edited February 27, 2020 by 7+6=13