Tondas Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Huckleberry said: I wouldn't want Lucic at all, hell wouldn't even do him for Okposo straight up. I don't want Lucic either but for Okposo straight up, I'd have a conversation. Identical ages and cap hits and Lucic does bring a physical element to the Sabres that they don't have. I can live with Lucic scoring a half dozen fewer goals than Kyle. It would be an interesting debate. Just make sure that Lucic and Ryan Miller don't attend the same alumni events. Quote
shrader Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Huckleberry said: I wouldn't want Lucic at all, hell wouldn't even do him for Okposo straight up. What if you get to tie him to the goal posts and let the goalies continuously run him? I’d oh to watch that. 1 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 Have a safe 4th all. I'd like to see everyone posting with all fingers tomorrow ? 1 1 Quote
Cityo'Rasmii Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 Happy 4th sabrespace! Like scotty said, all fingers, all toes and everything in betwixt 1 Quote
Tondas Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Have a safe 4th all. I'd like to see everyone posting with all fingers tomorrow ? No fireworks for me. I can't take the chance to jeopardize my sex life. 3 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 Just now, Brawndo said: Marner’s agent looked David up in the phone book. Quote
Tondas Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Would cost us 4 1st rounders. Worth it? Quote
pi2000 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tondas said: Would cost us 4 1st rounders. Worth it? Yes Quote
Tondas Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, pi2000 said: Yes Interesting take. Is Marner > Nylander, Mitts, Rasmus, and Cozens. Quote
erickompositör72 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tondas said: Interesting take. Is Marner > Nylander, Mitts, Rasmus, and Cozens. The better question is: does having Marner prevent us from getting top 10 draft picks the next 4 years? Edited July 4, 2019 by erickompositör72 2 Quote
Berg Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, Tondas said: Would cost us 4 1st rounders. Worth it? With their contracts 4 first draft pick for them salvation. Quote
nfreeman Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 54 minutes ago, Tondas said: Interesting take. Is Marner > Nylander, Mitts, Rasmus, and Cozens. Excellent articulation of the issue. Certainly if we thought Rasmus and Cozens weren't going to far exceed Nylander and Mitts, we would do it in a second. 1 Quote
Gatorman0519 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 I would love love love for someone to stick it to the Leafs Quote
Hoss Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 Humor me for a second: what if the league added incentive for teams around the league to offer sheet? What if a team matches the offer sheet they must give the team signing the contract something? This is way too complicated but... what if: team matching the offer sheet gives the offering team the right to swap firsts in the next draft. BUT if you fail on an offer sheet you can’t do another for two seasons? Quote
kas23 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, nfreeman said: Excellent articulation of the issue. Certainly if we thought Rasmus and Cozens weren't going to far exceed Nylander and Mitts, we would do it in a second. I think it makes much more sense for an established playoff team, says the Caps or Pens, to give someone an offer sheet. They just need one more boost, at the expense of their future, to get them a cup. A basement dweller shouldn’t do this. Our team, for example, we are a perennial top 10 drafter. Do we really think we would be any better than this year’s Leafs if we had Marner? Likely not, and we would dumped our future because of it. We should leave such an offer sheet to wait until we have at least strung a couple playoff births in a row. Quote
mjd1001 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoss said: Humor me for a second: what if the league added incentive for teams around the league to offer sheet? What if a team matches the offer sheet they must give the team signing the contract something? This is way too complicated but... what if: team matching the offer sheet gives the offering team the right to swap firsts in the next draft. BUT if you fail on an offer sheet you can’t do another for two seasons? I agree with your sentiment, but it actually does not have to be that complicated. Just make the compensation a bit less. 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 5, 2019 Report Posted July 5, 2019 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said: I agree with your sentiment, but it actually does not have to be that complicated. Just make the compensation a bit less. This is fair but then teams would match even more often. Quote
nfreeman Posted July 5, 2019 Report Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, mjd1001 said: I agree with your sentiment, but it actually does not have to be that complicated. Just make the compensation a bit less. 1 hour ago, Hoss said: This is fair but then teams would match even more often. I think if the compensation were substantially less -- or zero, as in the NBA -- there would be many more offer sheets, and as a result the team with matching rights would find itself having to make hard salary cap choices more often, and more guys would inevitably change teams. Quote
Brawndo Posted July 5, 2019 Author Report Posted July 5, 2019 This guy is followed by a majority of the hockey insiders. Quote
erickompositör72 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Posted July 5, 2019 1 minute ago, nfreeman said: I think if the compensation were substantially less -- or zero, as in the NBA -- there would be many more offer sheets, and as a result the team with matching rights would find itself having to make hard salary cap choices more often, and more guys would inevitably change teams. The NHL seems, to me, so unique in how teams can rebound from one season to the next (or vise versa), and especially, how top-seeded teams can get eliminated in early rounds of the playoffs. Is part of the RFA structure responsible for this? If so, don't change it... Quote
darksabre Posted July 5, 2019 Report Posted July 5, 2019 Just now, Brawndo said: This guy is followed by a majority of the hockey insiders. I bet it's Ottawa. Quote
Tondas Posted July 5, 2019 Report Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, darksabre said: I bet it's Ottawa. I'll go with Lou and the Islanders. That would be a great story. But the Isles are getting older and have some players that would be attractive to move if they need room. Several of their players are on long tern contracts so there may not be room for up and comer from the farm. They have cap space and the draft choices to do it. Edited July 5, 2019 by Tondas Quote
MODO Hockey Posted July 5, 2019 Report Posted July 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, Tondas said: I'll go with Lou and the Islanders. That would be a great story. But the Isles are getting older and have some players that would be attractive to move if they need room. Several of their players are on long tern contracts so there may not be room for up and comer from the farm. They have cap space and the draft choices to do it. So do we. 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted July 5, 2019 Report Posted July 5, 2019 15 hours ago, Brawndo said: I am so hoping it's 12 AAV or higher. I would like Dubas walking around like he was just alley dragged by a herd of Clydesdale. 1 1 Quote
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