darksabre Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: Y’all are dumping on Vesey, but who were his centers in NY. Getting him is a very little risk proposition to see if he blossoms with more dynamic centers. If he doesn’t work out it cost you a 3rd or 4th rd pick and one year of salary. The pick could be replaced if you trade him at the deadline. Right now we need a minimum of 2 new wingers. Vesey isn’t my first choice, but at least I think there might still be some upside. Who would his centers be here? He's a meh hockey player and we don't need more meh hockey players. Quote
Huckleberry Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 I think Yzerman will abuse his Tampa connection and make a nice blockbuster with them. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Hoss said: That’s actually one of the worst trade proposals I’ve ever seen on this board. I just wanted to be 100% sure that’s what you meant before I made that comment lol People here told me the same thing when I suggested Risto and Reinhart for Aho and Slavin a few years ago, so I'll take that as a compliment. Quote
wsam4031 Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoss said: THIS IS NOT A REAL THING BUT FOR CONVERSATION’S SAKE: I had a dream last night we traded Risto, Mittelstadt, Borgen and 7 for Taylor Hall WITH AN EXTENSION SIGNED. Would you make that trade? NO. I think Risto and #7 are plenty Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 Zucker for 31 and a B prospect for line 2 LW? Ferland in FA for line 3 winger for Mitts? Need a line 2 Center? Would that be considered an improved forward ranks move for the off season if you look at Olofsson / Nylander up? Quote
Hoss Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Also, if you went to Tampa's board and offered Risto/Borgen/Mitts for Cirelli/Cernak/Foote, they'd laugh you out the door. They'd pay$100 of their own money to keep Risto off their team Just like I told y'all with Point last year, Cirelli is going to be a special hockey player. The only way you get special hockey players is drafting top 3, getting lucky after that, or identifying guys before they break out, not after I may be wrong, but Anthony is my pick this offseason to develop into a special player at some point soon The 7th pick was also involved. Also, it’s been widely reported that Tampa wants Risto so you’re off there. ”The only way you get special players is by drafting top 3” in a post about Brayden Point and Anthony Cirelli who weren’t even close to being top 3 picks. Good morning, Flagg. ? Edited June 21, 2019 by Hoss Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hoss said: The 7th pick was also involved. Also, it’s been widely reported that Tampa wants Risto so you’re off there. ”The only way you get special players is by drafting top 3” in a post about Brayden Point and Anthony Cirelli who weren’t even close to being top 3 picks. Good morning, Flagg. ? lmao did you miss the next part "getting lucky after that" referring to late round picks that develop into special players And I'm not off, I didn't say tampa doesn't want risto, i said that you'd get laughed off of their forum because their fans don't want him Trust me, I've already had these conversations with them Good morning to me, it sounds like you are the one that needs to reread!! Edited June 21, 2019 by Randall Flagg Quote
Hoss Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: People here told me the same thing when I suggested Risto and Reinhart for Aho and Slavin a few years ago, so I'll take that as a compliment. I would love to add Cirelli. But I’m not just going to throw every asset we have for him when it’s either not necessary or he’s untouchable. If Cirelli is truly attainable it won’t take all the assets I mentioned to get him. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, sabills said: yeah... I'm a pass on Vesey I was wondering if these charts made it to this forum. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 I am not saying acquire Vesey, but I do think Mitts and Eichel are better then what he had in NY. Donskoi and Ferlund are good 3rd line players and basically only slight, if at all, improvements over Sheary, Vesey or KO. They really don’t move the needle, but like Vesey just give us more depth. Besides Olofsson, who would Vesey be blocking? Thompson? Nylander? What have they proven? @nfreeman Olofsson had 4 pts in 6 NHL games after putting up 63 in 66 AHL games, including 30 goals. I think he’s proven he’s ready to be in the NHL. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: I would love to add Cirelli. But I’m not just going to throw every asset we have for him when it’s either not necessary or he’s untouchable. If Cirelli is truly attainable it won’t take all the assets I mentioned to get him. Cernak and Foote are their two top-rated defensive prospects too, though. They aren't filler. They're f*cking good and would easily be our top two non-Dahlin defense prospects, and at least one is sure to be a top four fixture for years. Again, Cernak already has a successful NHL season in the books, helping McDonagh to the best season of his career in tough minutes. He'd be the perfect Dahlin partner - he's nasty, stay-at-home, and allows his partner to roam. He is an excellent shot suppressor in his own right. We'd be a MUCH better team this year with this trade, and would have a great chance of winning it in the long run, which is why Tampa would say no if it was proposed. Edited June 21, 2019 by Randall Flagg Quote
Huckleberry Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 Thing about Jbott is, he keeps things tight, nothing might happen but he always surprises us at least once every deadline. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 By the way Cernak was drafted with one of the picks TM returned to LA in the I’ll advised McNabb/Fasching trade. 1 1 Quote
triumph_communes Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Any Risto to Tampa trade is going to have Foote being one of the primary returns. Tampa is in win-now mode and just needs cap relief and replacement RD with grit — they aren’t going to trade their NHL proven cost controlled assets to pick up Risto. They might be willing to trade away defenders they can’t wait two years on to make sure they can repeat their Presidents trophy next two years, and this time have enough grit in the lineup to play playoff hockey. Edited June 21, 2019 by triumph_communes 1 Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 By the way, I did read that 7 was in your trade @Hoss, and forgot about it. So I'd ask Tampa for another piece. But I'd still do it! And please just ignore me because crafting outlandish trades is my favorite hockey thing to do. Last summer I made a bunch of Dahlin trade proposals just for fun Quote
Marvin Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 44 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: I was wondering if these charts made it to this forum. More importantly, does JBot know what they say about Vesey? Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, sabills said: yeah... I'm a pass on Vesey exactly. Do the same for Ferlund, I would be curious to see the difference. Quote
freester Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, dudacek said: Alex and 31 for Zucker. Do we like? We need to send them a salary dump back like Scandella or Sobotka Quote
Marvin Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 According to HFBoards, Dreger said: Sabres really interested in Vesey Nylander could be moved 31 is apparently set to be traded. Quote
Tondas Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 Not sure why there is so much Vesey love from JBot. 1 Quote
WildCard Posted June 21, 2019 Report Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, WildCard said: 2 minutes ago, E4 ... Ke2 said: According to HFBoards, Dreger said: Sabres really interested in Vesey Nylander could be moved 31 is apparently set to be traded. ? Quote
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