WildCard Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: George. Louis. Costanza. Why in the world would Colorado move Barrie? UFA next year, have to pay Rantenan, they have the young guys coming up to replace him. Might as well get something for him Edited June 20, 2019 by WildCard Quote
dudacek Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: George. Louis. Costanza. Why in the world would Colorado move Barrie? From what I read they are more comfortable using Makar as their top offensive RD and Johnson as their top defensive RD than spend what Barrie is going to command as a UFA. Like so many other players out there right now, it’s about contracts. I’m really starting to believe the chatter right now is more than just hype. So many good teams forced to make hard decisions against the cap and so many teams with space eager to improve. Come on Botterill, be a player. Edited June 20, 2019 by dudacek Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 Barrie's contract is already up? Wow, i thought he had a few years left. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 An interest in Carl Soderberg? He has one left at 4.75 and admittedly is 33, but is 50% in the faceoff circle and puts up 40+ pts. Plays center and LW and might be a cost effective and productive placeholder for next season. He does have a modified NTC. He would also be cheap to acquire. Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: I would definitely consider a Risto and Mitts package for Kadri, Kapanen and Brown. Gives the Leafs what they are looking for in some cap relief as well as addressing their RHD and cost controlled center request. Gives Buffalo a nice cost controlled roster ready 3C in his prime for 3 more seasons and a 3RW in Brown who is very decent at defensive game as a forward and an RFA to boot going in to his prime years. Kapanen is line 1 or 2 RW ready. This is the trade I'd be looking for if I'm Botterill. Edited June 20, 2019 by Scottysabres Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 Steal Kapanen if you can, but otherwise leave the Leafs in the cap hell of their own creation. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 Preds fan that was asked if Subban is bad now: "That's the $9M question. And the answer I think is we still don't really know for sure. He WAS bad last season. Or at least for most of it. He was noticeably slower at the start of the season especially. But we still don't know if or how much his mysterious injury played into it... it seemed like he might have been playing hurt to start the season and got shut down in mid-November. Then came back after Christmas but still wasn't quite up to par for a while after that. I thought maybe somewhere around mid-March and then on through to the end of the playoffs he looked a lot more like his old self, however. But I don't have anything that pinpoints a change/recovery, and there has been no official word on his health status at any time. It's at least hopeful that he had those final weeks where he suddenly looked a whole lot better again. But that's a pretty short sample to go on. But then the 50 games before that where he looked bad is a relatively small sample in the overall body of his career work too. So unless you're on the Preds medical staff or know something none of the rest of us do, it's kind of a mystery box for now, unfortunately. I don't think there's strong public evidence to support the notion that he's starting any age-related decline. But a bad season is a bad season and a team picking up that contract would have to do their homework I think particularly on the medical report just to be sure there's nothing chronic that might be lurking in the weeds to explain his bad season. " 1 Quote
darksabre Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 I'd give Subban a chance if the can get Risto and Bogo out of here. I've always felt PK was overrated but he's still an upgrade and the term that is left isn't really that scary, even if the cap hit is. Quote
Hoss Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 PK is one of my all-time favorite athletes. He’s an incredibly good guy who’s charitable work is as good as what he gives you on the ice. And he’s highly entertaining. That said, his contract isn’t exactly great, so I’d need to be able to get him for cheeeeeap. Quote
WildCard Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 Think of what he could teach Dahlin though. Instead of, you know, Dahlin learning from Risto At least Montour can force some good habits on him though Quote
darksabre Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 The interesting part about Subban is that if he's declining and not worth his contract you can just leave him exposed for the expansion draft. 3 Quote
dudacek Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, darksabre said: The interesting part about Subban is that if he's declining and not worth his contract you can just leave him exposed for the expansion draft. Yep. only three years left, no NTC/NMC at all and a virtual lock to be exposed. I wonder how anxious they are to move him. Edited June 20, 2019 by dudacek Quote
darksabre Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: Yep. only three years left, no NTC/NMC at all and a virtual lock to be exposed. I wonder how anxious they are to move him. It actually makes sense for them to move him now since cap space is their immediate need. Might as well get something for him, free up some cap, and let someone else deal with the outcomes of him either declining or getting picked up in the expansion draft for free. They might be selling low now, but they could be selling for even lower if they wait. 1 Quote
French Collection Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 I would like to see Stastny as a 2C for two years. He did a good job in Winnipeg and Vegas in that role. He would be off the books for Dahlin's new contract, and Mitts could move up to 2C. 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 Would #31, Nylander, and Girgs be enough for Collin Miller and Stastny and Reaves(Cap dump) maybe? It does take approx 12mil off their books a tad over 10 with a Girgs signing. Quote
WildCard Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, Brawndo said: This is my nightmare 1 Quote
sabresparaavida Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Scottysabres said: I would definitely consider a Risto and Mitts package for Kadri, Kapanen and Brown. Gives the Leafs what they are looking for in some cap relief as well as addressing their RHD and cost controlled center request. Gives Buffalo a nice cost controlled roster ready 3C in his prime for 3 more seasons and a 3RW in Brown who is very decent at defensive game as a forward and an RFA to boot going in to his prime years. Kapanen is line 1 or 2 RW ready. This is the trade I'd be looking for if I'm Botterill. No way I give up the future of mitts AND Risto for a top 6 RW and a couple of third liners. That doesn't solve our 2C problem, and creates a hole in our defense. Sure, our middle 6 would be upgraded, but it is not worth losing our eventual (hopefully) 2C and a highly sought after defender. 2 Quote
Hoss Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, WildCard said: Think of what he could teach Dahlin though. Instead of, you know, Dahlin learning from Risto At least Montour can force some good habits on him though Arizona is so lost. They’re just moving dudes in and out with absolutely no semblance of a plan. 1 Quote
Tondas Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 With the volume of RHD not named Risto being mentioned in many rumors, it makes me think that Jbot is not inclined to trade him. Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said: No way I give up the future of mitts AND Risto for a top 6 RW and a couple of third liners. That doesn't solve our 2C problem, and creates a hole in our defense. Sure, our middle 6 would be upgraded, but it is not worth losing our eventual (hopefully) 2C and a highly sought after defender. Maybe, but we don't know what Mitts will or won't be as of yet and Risto we already know what he is. Kapanen, yea top 6 RW, but Kadri and Brown aren't just 3rd liners, they're 2 very good 3rd liners. I'd give up possibility for the known to start winning some to be sure, but I understand why some wouldn't as well. 56 minutes ago, WildCard said: This is my nightmare Unless Botterill acts, he could lose the advantage when it comes to risto, some of these talks being rumored will bare fruit. Both Toronto and Carolina getting better serves nothing for the Sabres, and a trade like the one mentioned does that for both. Edited June 20, 2019 by Scottysabres Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tondas said: With the volume of RHD not named Risto being mentioned in many rumors, it makes me think that Jbot is not inclined to trade him. Sadly, you may very well be correct. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Brawndo said: I like this one better Miller would be a very nice Risto replacement. Quote
steveoath Posted June 20, 2019 Report Posted June 20, 2019 Looks like Callahan won't be a cap dump anywhere now. LTIR due to a degenerative back disease. Quote
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