Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

[WildCard]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Alright, I will trade Reinhart straight up for Quinton Byfield. 

You could honestly start just making up names at this point and I wouldn't call you on it

[Doohicksie]

1 hour ago, Scottysabres said:

Apple's and oranges. As was stated early on, shake up trades, change of scenery trades sometimes work.

But at this point I don't want to see JBot make an "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" trade while we still have real needs.

And just curious.... why did you use an apostrophe in Apple's but not oranges?

[Ogelthorpe]

14 minutes ago, WildCard said:

According to everyone. +/- is like saying the world is flat

Did fine for the first 100 years of hockey until people decided to go math professors for hockey advice. 

 

 

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, WildCard said:

You could honestly start just making up names at this point and I wouldn't call you on it

lol

imagine if you will, a 6'4" center who can skate, score, loves physicality and is only 17. He is currently 4th in the OHL for points and 7th in PPG. 

[Doohicksie]

1 hour ago, Scottysabres said:

A change needs to be made, and if Botterill is having a difficult time finding a partner for top 6, he should still look to address the bottom 6.

I see no compelling reason why.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Doohickie

[WildCard]

2 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

Did fine for the first 100 years of hockey until people decided to go math professors for hockey advice. 

So yeah, same thing as thinking the Earth is flat

 

Edited November 22, 2019 by WildCard

[woods-racer]

Just now, Doohickie said:

But at this point I don't want to see JBot make an "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" trade while we still have real needs.

And just curious.... why did you use an apostrophe in Apple's but not oranges?

The apples possess the oranges.

It's a dominance thing.

[Ogelthorpe]

26 minutes ago, Curt said:

Couple points:

1) +/- is really a mix between a team stat and individual player stat.  For any player it’s going to be heavily influenced by the team they play on.

2) +/- is not a defensive stat any more than it is an offensive stat.

3) If you take the view that Reinhart is not defensively responsible because his +/- is negative, then you are also taking the view that Buffalo has had zero defensively responsible players over the last few years, because they all have negative +/-.  This includes even ROR.

Ok, ROR sucked when he was here just like the rest of the team

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

Ok, ROR sucked when he was here just like the rest of the team

Not true. 

Edited November 22, 2019 by LGR4GM

[Zamboni]

after it’s discovered +/- doesn’t give an accurate picture. At all.

[Doohicksie]

47 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Remember when we had the discussion of why ROR should be traded? It amounted to the last few years the team sucked. 

We can't keep subtracting talent and expecting to be better. 

At this point, Skinner, Eichel, Reinhart, Dahlin, and Jokiharju

I won't say you're wrong, but I think it's a bit early to call Joker part of the core.  But he's doing well in his audition.

[Torpedo Forecheck]

8 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Alright, I will trade Reinhart straight up for Quinton Byfield. 

Cute. Personally I'd trade Reinhart for a lot of other things.

[Ogelthorpe]

2 minutes ago, Zamboni said:

after it’s discovered +/- doesn’t give an accurate picture. At all.

Lol.  Young kid who prolly never played a sport in his life but is decent at math thinks he knows everything 

[Torpedo Forecheck]

4 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

Ok, ROR sucked when he was here just like the rest of the team

That was a bad trade

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, Torpedo Forecheck said:

Cute. Personally I'd trade Reinhart for a lot of other things.

Such as?

[Ogelthorpe]

Just now, Torpedo Forecheck said:

That was a bad trade

I agree but he was bad for the team and the locker room

[Doohicksie]

13 minutes ago, Curt said:

So, just a note on this guy Jankowski.  Zeros this season, but the last 2 seasons he had 17 and 14 goals, playing about 13 mins.  This includes just 2 PP goals and 7 SH goals.

I might fall for that if we hadn't acquired Vesey.

[Torpedo Forecheck]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Such as?

Who's available? I'm not giving him away, but I'd have to think there is a package out there somewhere. I mean its not like he a superstar, I'd explore it though.

 

4 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

I agree but he was bad for the team and the locker room

Yeah I wasn't around then, but that was reported. Personally, I found it surprising, I coached against Ryan and he was always a high character guy.

Edited November 22, 2019 by Torpedo Forecheck

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, Torpedo Forecheck said:

Who's available? I'm not giving away, but I'd have to think there is a package out there somewhere. I mean its not like he a superstar

Idk, name players that you would trade him for available or not. 

[Doohicksie]

5 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

I agree but he was bad for the team and the locker room

Ah, so you've bought into the narrative.

[Scottysabres]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

It doesn't fix the engine. You are going into the parts store with a rod through the block asking the guy about an oil change. 

You do realize there is more wrong with car than the engine. The brakes need replacing, the fuel tank has a hole in it, both tail lights are out, the alternator is shot, the radiator needs a flush and the transmission is shot.

22 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

But at this point I don't want to see JBot make an "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while" trade while we still have real needs.

And just curious.... why did you use an apostrophe in Apple's but not oranges?

I see your point.

And not sure, force of habit I guess.

[LGR4GM]

4 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

You do realize there is more wrong with car than the engine. The brakes need replacing, the fuel tank has a hole in it, both tail lights are out, the alternator is shot, the radiator needs a flush and the transmission is shot.

I see your point.

And not sure, force of habit I guess.

I realize that without an offensive engine it doesn't matter if you paint the car. 

[Ogelthorpe]

6 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

Ah, so you've bought into the narrative.

Yes I have bought into the narrative that this organization is so inept that it can alienate its players

[Zamboni]

15 minutes ago, Ogelthorpe said:

Lol.  Young kid who prolly never played a sport in his life but is decent at math thinks he knows everything 

You certainly aren’t describing me ?

 

anyway ... I would be behind trading Olofsson and ERod if it meant an upgrade. Even slightly. But I think a little more fuel to that fire is what’s needed to grab someone of worth.

[nfreeman]

Let's chill out a bit in here please.  TTBOMK, no one here is responsible for the Sabres stinking yet again.