LGR4GM Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Except we are cap strapped and have guys like Pilut and Thompson who are likely ready to contribute if recalled. I agree that Jbot should listen to calls, but winning chemistry is hard to find and if these guys have finally found it, I really don't want him to mess with the room. I wouldn't take on cap in a trade. Chemistry is short hand for playing well. You ever notice how the good teams always have chemistry no matter who they slot into their lineups? It is because they play well. If Krueger has a good structure in place than moving out, FOR EXAMPLE ONLY, Risto and slotting in Montour should have almost no negative impacts. Quote
Sabel79 Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I wouldn't take on cap in a trade. Chemistry is short hand for playing well. You ever notice how the good teams always have chemistry no matter who they slot into their lineups? It is because they play well. If Krueger has a good structure in place than moving out, FOR EXAMPLE ONLY, Risto and slotting in Montour should have almost no negative impacts. We literally can't take on cap in a trade (unless and until Bogo has a fork stuck in him and hits LTIR for the rest of the season) Scandella, for example, gets nothing for now in return. If a top 6 C or forward in general is the desired return, it's Risto (or Montour I guess, but I'd rather not) + and the cap has to match. Quote
dudacek Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, steveoath said: Listening to 31 thoughts.... They reckon Hall wants out of NJ. What's the chances we could get him? (Prob slim or none). Could see Hall with Sheary and CM, or even Skinner and Mojo. Darcy didn’t do Hall for Risto. How much do we add, remembering Hall is a rental. Quote
MakeSabresGrr8Again Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, dudacek said: Darcy didn’t do Hall for Risto. How much do we add, remembering Hall is a rental. I suggested sign and trade, not rental. Quote
Brawndo Posted October 18, 2019 Author Report Posted October 18, 2019 Wasn’t GMTM the one who turned down Risto for Hall? Actually acquiring Hall would be good for getting the first overall pick in case the Sabres miss the playoffs.! 1 1 Quote
bunomatic Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 According to LeBrun Risto is happy with Ralph and is off the market. Quote
Scottysabres Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, bunomatic said: According to LeBrun Risto is happy with Ralph and is off the market. With Borgen looking promising, and Nelson as current RHD Depth does that mean we may move Montour to get what we need on RW? I can't see Bogo as a desired acquisition for teams and Miller and Jokiharju look solid so far. Quote
WildCard Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 Montour is not going anywhere 2 Quote
... Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, bunomatic said: According to LeBrun Risto is happy with Ralph and is off the market. I heard the reports of Risto being happy, but not off the market. When did this come out? 1 Quote
Curt Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, bunomatic said: According to LeBrun Risto is happy with Ralph and is off the market. Yeah, I’m quite sure that’s not what he said. He said he was happy and felt that Ralph may be the best coach he’s ever had. Happy players get traded all the time though. Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Scottysabres said: With Borgen looking promising, and Nelson as current RHD Depth does that mean we may move Montour to get what we need on RW? 2 Quote
bunomatic Posted October 18, 2019 Report Posted October 18, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Curt said: Yeah, I’m quite sure that’s not what he said. He said he was happy and felt that Ralph may be the best coach he’s ever had. Happy players get traded all the time though. Curt go find the article. LeBrun said he’s off the market . I never said that Risto said he’s off the market. 53 minutes ago, ... said: I heard the reports of Risto being happy, but not off the market. When did this come out? Just read it this morning but apparently LeBrun put it out last night. LeBrun thinks they may move someone else once Montour and Bogo return. Edited October 18, 2019 by bunomatic Quote
Curt Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, bunomatic said: Curt go find the article. LeBrun said he’s off the market . I never said that Risto said he’s off the market. Just read it this morning but apparently LeBrun put it out last night. LeBrun thinks they may move someone else once Montour and Bogo return. Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I was referencing only what LeBrun said about Risto, not anything Risto said about himself. Its an Athletic article, so I can’t read. I had seen some tweet by LeBrun but didn’t know there was an article until just now. Edited October 19, 2019 by Curt Put the wrong letters in the right places. Quote
triumph_communes Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Curt said: Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I was referencing only what LeBrun said about Risto, not anything Risto said about himself. Its an Athletic article, so I can’t read. I had seen some tweet by LeBrun but didn’t know there was an article until just now. Lebrun only said he thinks Scandella is the odd man out of Ristolainen ends up staying, then quoting Vogls article which was a bunch of quotes of Risto and Okposo saying they’re happy. Not Lebrun saying he heard Risto is off the market. Quote
... Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 You know, gentlemen, this is how rumours get started. Quote
bunomatic Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, Curt said: Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I was referencing only what LeBrun said about Risto, not anything Risto said about himself. Its an Athletic article, so I can’t read. I had seen some tweet by LeBrun but didn’t know there was an article until just now. Yeah i guess he is just one of the talking heads so anythings possible when it comes to trades. I suppose until JBott says Risto is off the table potentially everyone is in play except maybe Dahlin. Quote
pi2000 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 FWIW my source says Risto is still on the market. 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, pi2000 said: FWIW my source says Risto is still on the market. I would hope so. Any chance you asked if they have a plan cap wise when Montour comes back? Quote
pi2000 Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 44 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: I would hope so. Any chance you asked if they have a plan cap wise when Montour comes back? My source isn't with Buffalo. 1 Quote
inkman Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 35 minutes ago, pi2000 said: My source isn't with Buffalo. 2 7 Quote
Curt Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Scottysabres said: I would hope so. Any chance you asked if they have a plan cap wise when Montour comes back? I don’t think anything changes cap wise. Montour is already counting against the cap. The cap will be fine unless they make a trade that adds salary. Edited October 19, 2019 by Curt 1 Quote
Thorner Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) On 10/18/2019 at 8:39 AM, GASabresIUFAN said: This team is 6-1-1. Why are we trying to vote anyone off the island right now. MoJo is doing a fine job at 2C. Our D group has been solid. The goalies have been solid and the Mitts line showed some life with Sheary back. Montour is weeks away from returning. Jbot isn't doing anything until he has to. He is going to wait and see how healthy we remain and how the kids are doing in Roch before making any big moves. Also Risto is still eating big minutes. He has earned RK's trust. If this is the case, why are we still trying to move the guy? I'd much rather send Scandy packing, but he and Joker seem to be working well together so I'm not all that interested in moving him either. There's also the scenario that they are increasing his value with the idea of still potentially trading him if the right offer comes along. The key will be to move him before his play starts to tail off further, IF, IF, (if!) it continues to move in a downwards trajectory, in order to secure the biggest return. Friedman mentioned recently the Sabres nearly acquired Ehlers over the summer. I'd assume Botterill still pulls the trigger quickly if such an offer becomes available. Edited October 19, 2019 by Thorny Quote
shrader Posted October 19, 2019 Report Posted October 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Curt said: I don’t think anything changes cap wise. Montour is already counting against the cap. The cap will be fine unless they make a trade that adds salary. The only return with cap implications would be Hunwick. We already know that’s not happening. The only other “return” that hits the cap is a recall from the AHL. Quote
WildCard Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 More of the same from Friedman's 31 thoughts 8. With Buffalo tight to the ceiling and Ristolainen seeming very happy, the talk has turned to Marco Scandella. He’s in the final season of his contract, playing 17:51 per night. Cap hit is $4 million. https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-pressure-mounting-toronto-maple-leafs/ Quote
Taro T Posted October 23, 2019 Report Posted October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, WildCard said: More of the same from Friedman's 31 thoughts Hey, if they can get Ehlers for Scandella, more power to them. Somehow, don't see that happening. Quote
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