Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

[Radar]

6 minutes ago, dudacek said:

You’d get the Vegas Golden Knights.

Or at least the version that went to the finals.

This really makes for a good discussion. Fans buy tickets to see super stars vs to see winning team. I think definitely they will pay for wins. How to best build a winner? Probably depth not handful of elite players?

[nfreeman]

7 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

The biggest issue for me would be once we re-sign Sam and Dahlin, we’d have Skinner, Jack, Reinhart, Point and Dahlin for nearly 50 mill. That leaves only 35 mill for 17-18 other players.

And this raises the point I made elsewhere about whether Reino should get a fat long-term deal.  It's quite possible that the right number of those contracts on a team is 4 and not 5, and Point would absolutely be preferable to Reino for that 4th one.

OTOH, it wouldn't be crazy to bank on the cap continuing to rise and thus creating room for Reino to get that 5th contract.

[Zamboni]

Although I understand why ...

In 2018, I wanted JB to take a risk and sign Reinhart to a full 8 years. I think he would have jumped at the chance to sign for 6 mil. per for 8 years.

After this season, (unless he absolutely sucks), there’s no way he agrees to under 7.5 mil. Even on a short term deal. His contract last year and this year is a very very good deal. No way the next one will be.

[mjd1001]

3 hours ago, dudacek said:

You’d get the Vegas Golden Knights.

Or at least the version that went to the finals.

Possibly yes.  When too many teams pay top dollar to superstars and it leaves a lot more 'good' players there for the picking, then the way to build your team will be to get a team full of those 'good' players.  Trends take years to develop, but when everyone is doing one thing...the 'other' thing often works.

[Broken Ankles]

3 hours ago, Radar said:

This really makes for a good discussion. Fans buy tickets to see super stars vs to see winning team. I think definitely they will pay for wins. How to best build a winner? Probably depth not handful of elite players?

Might not be easy, but I bet a GM could trade one of these high priced/elite players for three or maybe four of these depth players for about the same AAV.  The theory being to solidify the middle six.  Building depth seems like it’s impervious to failure. ?

[Brawndo]

2 hours ago, nfreeman said:

And this raises the point I made elsewhere about whether Reino should get a fat long-term deal.  It's quite possible that the right number of those contracts on a team is 4 and not 5, and Point would absolutely be preferable to Reino for that 4th one.

OTOH, it wouldn't be crazy to bank on the cap continuing to rise and thus creating room for Reino to get that 5th contract.

In this scenario Reinhart probably gets moved to replace some of the assets given up to trade for Point 

[SABRES 0311]

4 hours ago, French Collection said:

The elimination of the middle class.

I wonder how good of a team you could assemble with 20 x $4M players. You could possibly get 12 forwards who can score 10-20 goals.

Reminds me of Money Ball.

[kas23]

38 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

Might not be easy, but I bet a GM could trade one of these high priced/elite players for three or maybe four of these depth players for about the same AAV.  The theory being to solidify the middle six.  Building depth seems like it’s impervious to failure. ?

Wasn’t this the ROR trade in a nutshell?

[Curt]

10 hours ago, kas23 said:

Wasn’t this the ROR trade in a nutshell?

I think you got the joke.

[Brawndo]

 

[Randall Flagg]

The league needs to investigate if they meet within 2 mil of that number. That would be such ***** garbage. Point was a top 10 player in the entire league last year.

I would very, very easily go more than DOUBLE that number on an offer sheet.

Edited September 23, 2019 by Randall Flagg

[WildCard]

6 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

The league needs to investigate if they meet within 2 mil of that number. That would be such ***** garbage. Point was a top 10 player in the entire league last year.

I would very, very easily go more than DOUBLE that number on an offer sheet.

The league can't investigate anything, that's all on Point and the NHLPA. If anything it's them that would have an issue with this

[shrader]

2 minutes ago, WildCard said:

The league can't investigate anything, that's all on Point and the NHLPA. If anything it's them that would have an issue with this

Unless they were throwing some money on the side, like say investing in a company he owns (I've heard that one about a certain QB that we all hate).

[Brawndo]

Getting closer 

[WildCard]

 

Edited September 23, 2019 by WildCard

[Randall Flagg]

36 minutes ago, WildCard said:

The league can't investigate anything, that's all on Point and the NHLPA. If anything it's them that would have an issue with this

Oh for sure, I'd just be unbelievably pissed

 

[freester]

Rumor: from NHL TRADE RUMORS 

Laine for Risto, Sheary, and 2 number 1 picks 

 

I would not like this unless the picks are lottery protected 

[#freejame]

1 minute ago, freester said:

Rumor: from NHL TRADE RUMORS 

Laine for Risto, Sheary, and 2 number 1 picks 

 

I would not like this unless the picks are lottery protected 

If it comes with a 3x5.5 contract I say yes, so long as this year is lottery protected. 

[Zamboni]

I wish there was a “vetted accepted sources” rule. No one can post basement twitter dwellers claiming they have sources regarding trades and such. It muddies the waters too much. 

[#freejame]

Just now, Zamboni said:

I wish there was a “vetted accepted sources” rule. No one can post basement twitter dwellers claiming they have sources regarding trades and such. It muddies the waters too much. 

MLB Trade Rumors is legit. No reason for his sister site not to be 

[Eleven]

8 minutes ago, freester said:

Rumor: from NHL TRADE RUMORS 

Laine for Risto, Sheary, and 2 number 1 picks 

 

I would not like this unless the picks are lottery protected 

I heard this one (same source cited, too) from a friend on Saturday.  

[Zamboni]

4 minutes ago, #freejame said:

MLB Trade Rumors is legit. No reason for his sister site not to be 

I was just saying as a general thought. Sorry if it seemed like I meant it about the NHL Trade Rumors site. I just see several of those “I have a secret source so I’m legit” guys trying to make a name for themselves.

Edited September 23, 2019 by Zamboni

[Randall Flagg]

I don't think I buy that source at all. Does that site have a facebook page with the same name?

 

 

[thewookie1]

I heard the Laine trade rumor from a non-reputable source prior so I'm actually rather torn on this rumor's validity.

 

Regardless I hope its false as I'm very much not fond of Laine and his one dimensional play.

[sabresparaavida]

While it would add some excitement, I don't think it would be good for the team (Long term for sure).