Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

[Zamboni]

Matt Kopnak needs a hot chocolate, tissues and a blanket. Good grief ...

[Brawndo]

16 minutes ago, ... said:

No, because Bob was off all summer and his post came off more as an opinion than someone "in-the-know".

I’ll politely disagree. McKenzie sets the standard for all insiders and said that he still receives information from agents and teams, depending on its importance he suspends his Summer Twitter Hiatus to pass the information along. 

He also ended his vacation and started tweeting  again on September 2nd, so even in the unlikely event he did not receive any information all summer, he has had at least a week to ask around. 

[jahnyc]

The situation with Risto feels a bit too similar to the situations with Kane and O'Reilly.  Sabres will be trading the player and we get our hopes up for a significant return.  Unfortunately, it did not happen with Kane or O'Reilly, and I doubt it will with Risto.  It just seems that when a team is openly shopping a player for an extended period and the player does not want to play for the team, the prospect of getting a decent return for the player is negatively impacted and diminishes the longer the situation continues. 

[dudacek]

39 minutes ago, ... said:

No, because Bob was off all summer and his post came off more as an opinion than someone "in-the-know".

 

18 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I’ll politely disagree. McKenzie sets the standard for all insiders and said that he still receives information from agents and teams, depending on its importance he suspends his Summer Twitter Hiatus to pass the information along. 

He also ended his vacation and started tweeting  again on September 2nd, so even in the unlikely event he did not receive any information all summer, he has had at least a week to ask around. 

I’m with Brawndo 100 per cent on this.

McKenzie does not make posts like that unless the has heard something.

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In regards to the off-season, as @Thorny pointed out in regards to the Leafs and Tavares, while people always focus on the big names coming in, what’s going out matters as well.

If you subscribe to the idea that the Sabres biggest holes were offensive depth and mobile defencemen, this is what they’ve done to that part of the roster since the deadline:

Johansson for Sobotka

Vesey for Pominville

Olofsson for Thompson

Montour for Beaulieu

Miller for Pilut/Scandella

That’s 1/4 of the roster and an upgrade at every spot, no matter how hard you want to argue for Pommer ?

 

[Brawndo]

https://twitter.com/pierrevlebrun/status/1171535883197145088?s=21

[Brawndo]

 

[Thorner]

36 minutes ago, dudacek said:

 

I’m with Brawndo 100 per cent on this.

McKenzie does not make posts like that unless the has heard something.

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In regards to the off-season, as @Thorny pointed out in regards to the Leafs and Tavares, while people always focus on the big names coming in, what’s going out matters as well.

If you subscribe to the idea that the Sabres biggest holes were offensive depth and mobile defencemen, this is what they’ve done to that part of the roster since the deadline:

Johansson for Sobotka

Vesey for Pominville

Olofsson for Thompson

Montour for Beaulieu

Miller for Pilut/Scandella

That’s 1/4 of the roster and an upgrade at every spot, no matter how hard you want to argue for Pommer ?

 

Without taking the bait on Pominville/Vesey, my issue lies with the bolded. Depth wasn’t the issue, even if it was before the GM decided to trade a top 6 talent to attempt to address it. 

We all collectively said what the problem was all year: the top 6, notably needing an entire new 2nd line, as @Taro T so often adequately put it. 

Edited September 10, 2019 by Thorny

[dudacek]

9 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Without taking the bait on Pominville/Vesey, my issue lies with the bolded. Depth wasn’t the issue, even if it was before the GM decided to trade a top 6 talent to attempt to address it. 

We all collectively said what the problem was all year: the top 6, notably needing an entire new 2nd line, as @Taro T so often adequately put it. 

Semantics perhaps, but my impression was Sabrespace was very happy with Jack Jeff and Sam as a first line and OK with Girgs Larry and whoever as 4th line. We wanted secondary scoring and a revamped middle six.

Semantics aside, I think what it comes down though is 2nd line centre remains a glaring hole.

[Thorner]

5 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Semantics perhaps, but my impression was Sabrespace was very happy with Jack Jeff and Sam as a first line and OK with Girgs Larry and whoever as 4th line. We wanted secondary scoring and a revamped middle six.

Semantics aside, I think what it comes down though is 2nd line centre remains a glaring hole.

If we are being honest, 2C was the biggest rallying call and as you mentioned remains unaddressed. 

A situation only complicated by the fact 2 other top 6 positions are in varying levels of “hope” category for if we’ve even addressed them. Johansson being reasonable (2LW) and 1RW being a crapshoot where if we are being honest, the odds are against us. 

We are filling out a Bingo card here and don’t have enough “Free Space!”s to go around. 

Edited September 10, 2019 by Thorny

[WildCard]

The article is from Dreger, who's becoming pretty well known as a mouthpiece for Marner

Edited September 10, 2019 by WildCard

[Thorner]

They've all collectively somehow managed to cast everyone involved as a villain, through such a long, drawn out process, played out through the media. 

Edited September 10, 2019 by Thorny

[Eleven]

20 hours ago, darksabre said:

There's nothing wrong with Shiner. It's beer.

But it's not bock.

[darksabre]

3 hours ago, Eleven said:

But it's not bock.

It's really not. I'm okay with that. It's closer to Newcastle than anything. Even Genny Bock, which is barely a bock, is more bock than Shiner. 

[Two or less]

No clue who this guy is and i doubt he has any sources, but figured i'd post it in here for that small chance he's not BSing.

[SABRES 0311]

5 hours ago, Briere48 said:

No clue who this guy is and i doubt he has any sources, but figured i'd post it in here for that small chance he's not BSing.

Let’s pretend this is real. Who could the Sabre(s) going the other way be? 

[That Aud Smell]

5 hours ago, Briere48 said:

No clue who this guy is and i doubt he has any sources, but figured i'd post it in here for that small chance he's not BSing.

He’s basing it on an unattributed DM he received that stated it’s Laine for McCabe and two 1sts.

Please, let’s exercise some discretion when it comes to posting stuff.

(Also, it appears that he deleted that Tweet.)

[Derrico]

6 hours ago, Briere48 said:

No clue who this guy is and i doubt he has any sources, but figured i'd post it in here for that small chance he's not BSing.

I know things are slow right now but....

[MODO Hockey]

@Brawndo

 

 

[Huckleberry]

4 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

He’s basing it on an unattributed DM he received that stated it’s Laine for McCabe and two 1sts.

Please, let’s exercise some discretion when it comes to posting stuff.

(Also, it appears that he deleted that Tweet.)

I don't mind its a rumour thread and I want them all ?

[Brawndo]

Ranting Ron makes Elkund look like Friedman in terms of sources. 

[That Aud Smell]

20 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I don't mind its a rumour thread and I want them all ?

Really? Be careful what you wish for. There is a lot of junk and noise out there. I'd rather not have to sift through it.

[WildCard]

 

[LGR4GM]

 This is why you have to be careful if you trade for Laine. Are his contract demands in the same ballpark? He's worth less than Skinner but might want more than Eichel. 

3 minutes ago, WildCard said:

 

 

Edited September 11, 2019 by LGR4GM

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The greed on display here is pretty ugly.

[LGR4GM]

6 minutes ago, ... said:

The greed on display here is pretty ugly.

He should take the 7 years and bet on himself that he will be worth more after the deal is up. 77mil for 7 years of work is a great deal.