Non Sabres Deadline Trades/Rumors

[Two or less]

  On 9/18/2019 at 1:30 PM, inkman said:

I think our collective heads will explode if Winnepeg ends up trading for a D and it's not Risto. 

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I think our heads will explode when we see the return brought back for Risto. I don’t think it’ll be anything what people are assuming it will be.

[Brawndo]

  On 9/18/2019 at 1:37 PM, WildCard said:

Risto is cheaper and could offer a more physical style closer to Big Buff than Faulk, and he's young/durable/locked up 

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Honka is younger, a RFA whose new deal will be less than Risto’s over the next three years, and has much better metrics albeit  in a 3rd pairing role. 

Considering that both Risto and Honka would be best suited in second pairing role and the fact  that Dreger said Risto’s asking price is still high and Dallas is reportedly asking for a draft pick, Honka is the better option for other teams 

[Radar]

  On 9/18/2019 at 2:33 PM, Briere48 said:

I think our heads will explode when we see the return brought back for Risto. I don’t think it’ll be anything what people are assuming it will be.

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Unless it's Risto+ I tend to agree. I think many Buffalo fans regard him much higher than GM's around the league. He's good not great. 

[WildCard]

  On 9/18/2019 at 2:36 PM, Brawndo said:

Honka is younger, a RFA whose new deal will be less than Risto’s over the next three years, and has much better metrics albeit  in a 3rd pairing role. 

Considering that both Risto and Honka would be best suited in second pairing role and the fact  that Dreger said Risto’s asking price is still high and Dallas is reportedly asking for a draft pick, Honka is the better option for other teams 

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Don't bring me down with your facts

[Brawndo]

  On 9/18/2019 at 2:39 PM, WildCard said:

Don't bring me down with your facts

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[Randall Flagg]

  On 9/18/2019 at 2:33 PM, Briere48 said:

I think our heads will explode when we see the return brought back for Risto. I don’t think it’ll be anything what people are assuming it will be.

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What are people assuming it will be? I've seen a lot of pragmatic discussion of things like Roslovic and a mediocre vet. I've seen a lot of discussion about adding Mitts, perhaps our best prospect, to the trade to get something more worthwhile. 

Do you think it's going to be like a second rounder or something?

[triumph_communes]

If Byfugelin retires, they have cap room to make a larger deal out of it.

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  On 9/18/2019 at 2:45 PM, Randall Flagg said:

I've seen a lot of discussion about adding Mitts, perhaps our best prospect, to the trade to get something more worthwhile. 

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This is the only way we get a piece back that will actually be effective.

[WildCard]

He's 34 with 2 years left at $16M cash still coming to him, that's a lot to walk away from

Edited September 18, 2019 by WildCard

[WildCard]

 

[Zamboni]

Low hanging fruit .... something something Ryan O’Reilly.

am I doing it right?

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  On 9/18/2019 at 2:53 PM, WildCard said:

He's 34 with 2 years left at $16M cash still coming to him, that's a lot to walk away from

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He's made ~ $60mil from hockey.  He'll be okay.

[Randall Flagg]

  On 9/18/2019 at 2:55 PM, WildCard said:

 

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This is close to being true. His point totals are certainly helped by playing next to MacK, but MacK is also boosted by Mikko, who is outstanding in his own right

[WildCard]

  On 9/18/2019 at 3:02 PM, ... said:

He's made ~ $60mil from hockey.  He'll be okay.

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$16M is a lot to walk away from for anyone. Bill Gates isn't casually walking away from $16M

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  On 9/18/2019 at 3:03 PM, WildCard said:

$16M is a lot to walk away from for anyone. Bill Gates isn't casually walking away from $16M

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I didn't know Bill Gates and Dustin Byfuglien were clones.  Learn something new every day, I guess.

[WildCard]

  On 9/18/2019 at 3:05 PM, ... said:

I didn't know Bill Gates and Dustin Byfuglien were clones.  Learn something new every day, I guess.

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Not sure how that helps your point at all

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  On 9/18/2019 at 3:06 PM, WildCard said:

Not sure how that helps your point at all

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Sorry.  I'm sure it will make sense to other people.  Especially Dustin, if he reads it.

[WildCard]

  On 9/18/2019 at 3:08 PM, ... said:

Sorry.  I'm sure it will make sense to other people.  Especially Dustin, if he reads it.

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Well if that sequence made sense to anybody I'd gladly listen

[shrader]

  On 9/18/2019 at 2:56 PM, Zamboni said:

Low hanging fruit .... something something Ryan O’Reilly.

am I doing it right?

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I'd say "something something, Andrew Luck", but even that one's not quite right.  He's 34 years old and pairing that up with missing a lot of games due to injury recently, it is understandable.

[dudacek]

  On 9/18/2019 at 3:03 PM, Randall Flagg said:

This is close to being true. His point totals are certainly helped by playing next to MacK, but MacK is also boosted by Mikko, who is outstanding in his own right

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And you can substitute Tavares for MacKinnon.

Edited September 18, 2019 by dudacek

[LGR4GM]

  On 9/18/2019 at 2:45 PM, Randall Flagg said:

What are people assuming it will be? I've seen a lot of pragmatic discussion of things like Roslovic and a mediocre vet. I've seen a lot of discussion about adding Mitts, perhaps our best prospect, to the trade to get something more worthwhile. 

Do you think it's going to be like a second rounder or something?

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Our best Prospect is Cozens. 

If I am adding Mitts and Risto to a deal than I want Connor and something. I am not dealing with the 1way whiny Laine for Risto +.  Also Laine wants to be paid like a first liner and is bitching because he isn't being played on the first line. 

[Randall Flagg]

  On 9/18/2019 at 3:29 PM, LGR4GM said:

Our best Prospect is Cozens. 

If I am adding Mitts and Risto to a deal than I want Connor and something. I am not dealing with the 1way whiny Laine for Risto +.  Also Laine wants to be paid like a first liner and is bitching because he isn't being played on the first line. 

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I'll stick with my "perhaps" rather than declaring Cozens better with certainty. 

[LGR4GM]

  On 9/18/2019 at 3:37 PM, Randall Flagg said:

I'll stick with my "perhaps" rather than declaring Cozens better with certainty. 

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Casey Mittelstadt is not a prospect. If Mitts is a prospect then Dahlin is a prospect. 

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[dudacek]

  On 9/18/2019 at 3:29 PM, LGR4GM said:

Our best Prospect is Cozens. 

If I am adding Mitts and Risto to a deal than I want Connor and something. I am not dealing with the 1way whiny Laine for Risto +.  Also Laine wants to be paid like a first liner and is bitching because he isn't being played on the first line. 

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Mittelstadt and Risto for Connor and...? would have to be something both teams would have to discuss, given their situations.

[Randall Flagg]

  On 9/18/2019 at 3:38 PM, LGR4GM said:

Casey Mittelstadt is not a prospect. If Mitts is a prospect then Dahlin is a prospect. 

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Ah, I didn't realize you were sticking to the rigid definition of prospect there, I agree with you in that sense. I thought you were comparing their relevant seasons and declaring Cozens better than Casey was. 

The original point I wanted to make was that people were adding perhaps our best young forward (say, age 22 or under) to trades to try and come up with bigger returns that can help us more.