Thorner Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, pi2000 said: He's an upgrade over Schenn Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 If TB scratches him for the playoffs, would it be wrong for me not to be sad about that? Quote
Rasmus_ Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 Bye, seeya, whatever. You were terrible in the uniform, and hardly stayed on the ice. While I feel for you in terms of being a good locker room guy, your albatross of a contract overexposed any value you had. Quote
FogBat Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, French Collection said: JBot, use that newly found cap space to make a deal. If you have to take a cap dump to get it done, get it done. Bogo has a legit chance to win a Cup, I like the Bolts out of the east. He will not be a difference maker but the media will stick it to the Sabres whenever he dresses and makes a play. Maybe he'll send ERod packing, but I doubt it. This upcoming trade deadline has me extremely concerned. Quote
nucci Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 7 hours ago, miles said: it seems to me that he shouldnt be allowed to sign elsewhere since he didnt fulfill his contract. not that i want him on the sabres, but i would think he shouldnt be allowed to sign elsewhere until the contract's original timing expires. what stops any player from signing a deal and then quitting on the team and just resigning elsewhere How did he quit? Didn't the Sabres cut him? Quote
Huckleberry Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Crosschecking said: Maybe he'll send ERod packing, but I doubt it. This upcoming trade deadline has me extremely concerned. Why ? I don't expect any major trades happening. If you want to worry do it on july 1st. Quote
Scottysabres Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 Enough of this conservative nonsense. They are 6 points out, and gaining. Do what must be done to address the needs to enhance the push. See what is before you, the here and now, it is the only thing that accounts. Making the playoffs while addressing both longer term AND immediate need settles the matter well in to the off season as we have a ton of UFA's and some assets we can replace with the off season. You buy to make the push (a UFA or 2 as upgrades on those you ship out), you utilize the critically priced asset or 2 (RHD and 1st rd) to address both longer term AND a push. Show the players you believe in them Botts, give them the tools to make a real run. Quote
Doohicksie Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, nucci said: How did he quit? Didn't the Sabres cut him? It's in this thread, but I think the chronology went something like: Sabres waived Bogo from the active roster. Sabres assigned him to Rochester. Bogo did not report. Sabres waived him again for purposes of contract termination. Contract terminated. With the relative speed with which it happened, it appears to have been a mutual agreement. The Sabres get a roster spot and cap space, Bogo gets a chance to sign on with a new club with a lower cap hit than was possible even if the Sabres had retained salary. It seems like there was no interest from other teams to actually give something up to get Bogo; at this point he's being signed as pre-playoff defensive depth. Edited February 24, 2020 by Doohickie Quote
nucci Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doohickie said: It's in this thread, but I think the chronology went something like: Sabres waived Bogo from the active roster. Sabres assigned him to Rochester. Bogo did not report. Sabres waived him again for purposes of contract termination. Contract terminated. With the relative speed with which it happened, it appears to have been a mutual agreement. The Sabres get a roster spot and cap space, Bogo gets a chance to sign on with a new club with a lower cap hit than was possible even if the Sabres had retained salary. It seems like there was no interest from other teams to actually give something up to get Bogo; at this point he's being signed as pre-playoff defensive depth. I understand this...my reply to a poster saying any player under contract can just quit and sign with another team. That's not true and Bogo didn't quit. He was cut Quote
Doohicksie Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: You buy to make the push (a UFA or 2 as upgrades on those you ship out), you utilize the critically priced asset or 2 (RHD and 1st rd) to address both longer term AND a push. Show the players you believe in them Botts, give them the tools to make a real run. At this point, I think our UFAs are of move value to Krueger than they are to any other team. Krueger's system seems to be taking hold with the players we've got. Shipping them out now for upgrades would mean expending assets that could be used to continue building later, and disrupt the chemistry that is finally forming. We've tried to play through injuries earlier in the season with poor results. If you move a Larry, Lazar or ERod (yes even ERod) for another player the Sabres would do well to break even, performance-wise. If JBot is going to make a significant move today, it will be something that will help us next year and beyond. It's not going to be anything that will help us in this year's playoff race. For instance, to get a real 2C they will probably have to give up Risto, Montour and/or McCabe which would have a major impact on our defensive corps. The team can't gain anything without giving up something, and they don't have enough depth to give something up without missing a beat. As well as they're playing now, they missed their opportunity to be buyers when they went through their mid-season malaise. The future is not here yet. The biggest endorsement JBot can make in this team is not to get them additional help, it's to stand pat and see what they can do with the team they've got. Any significant upgrade for the future will doom this year's playoff push. Edited February 24, 2020 by Doohickie Quote
Doohicksie Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, nucci said: I understand this...my reply to a poster saying any player under contract can just quit and sign with another team. That's not true and Bogo didn't quit. He was cut Yep. Mutual agreement probably worked out between both sides before anything official happened. Berglund, on the other hand, literally did quit and although he didn't, he could have signed with another team. It took longer to terminate his contract though... no mutual consent. I think the only consent was between Berglund and his own self. Quote
miles Posted February 24, 2020 Report Posted February 24, 2020 7 hours ago, nucci said: How did he quit? Didn't the Sabres cut him? I didnt intend to say he quit. However, technically he did. He was assigned to Rochester and he refused to go, aka, quit Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 So, how's this working out for tampa? Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: So, how's this working out for tampa? Crappy for us. He is letting Toronto win just to screw the Sabres. Or am I being cynical 1 Quote
SwampD Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 I think he's actually looked pretty good. Oh wait, I'm supposed to be angry and hate him. He sucks! Quote
darksabre Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, SwampD said: I think he's actually looked pretty good. Oh wait, I'm supposed to be angry and hate him. He sucks! He literally cost them the game lol Quote
SwampD Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 33 minutes ago, darksabre said: He literally cost them the game lol People literally need to learn the meaning of that word. … or maybe he's just a hex and you are right. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 So... If Bogo is literally an anti-playoff curse, then the Lightning don't win another game all season and miss the playoffs. Boston takes the division and the Sabres leapfrog FLA to face the Leafs in the first round. 1 Quote
triumph_communes Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 Bogosian a -2 in a one goal loss, screwing over Buffalos playoff chances. Thanks Bogo you useless ***** won’t even make it to the playoffs before they smarten up and waive you 1 Quote
WildCard Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 53 minutes ago, darksabre said: He literally cost them the game lol How? Quote
Brawndo Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Posted February 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, WildCard said: How? 2 hours ago, Brawndo said: He and Colburn looked good failing to tie up one player behind the net, resulting in the goal. And watching Tavares skate to the middle of the ice with a half hearted stick swing as Tavares Back Hand went in was a thing of beauty. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 26, 2020 Report Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, darksabre said: Wow he hit something with this shot. 1 Quote
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