Brawndo Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Posted February 17, 2020 His cap hit is now gone Quote
Scottysabres Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 Well now, this definitely opens some deadline cap doors. 3 Quote
woods-racer Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:02 PM, Scottysabres said: Well now, this definitely opens some deadline cap doors. Expand I'm not saying we are going to become buyers, but at least we can kick some tires. 1 Quote
triumph_communes Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 BYEEeEeEeEeE I wonder if he feels free to beat up his twitter hecklers now. Con artist got paid millions to not play good hockey and Murray was dumb enough to foot the rest of the bill. Good riddance. Things are already better since he’s been gone Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:09 PM, triumph_communes said: BYEEeEeEeEeE I wonder if he feels free to beat up his twitter hecklers now. Con artist got paid millions to not play good hockey and Murray was dumb enough to foot the rest of the bill. Good riddance. Things are already better since he’s been gone Expand Slightly harsh. He is by all accounts a good guy. He just got injured a lot. 2 Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 I wonder why, if this was going to be the outcome, Bogosian and Buffalo didn’t just agree to a mutual contract termination? Perhaps it’s an easier or faster process in a case where the player is suspended? Quote
Scottysabres Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 Really odd this is all happening a week before the deadline. Even if coincidence, you couldn't write a better story line if it allows the Sabres to garner deadline talent and it pushes them in to the playoffs. Oh the intrigue...……….lol Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:23 PM, Curt said: I wonder why, if this was going to be the outcome, Bogosian and Buffalo didn’t just agree to a mutual contract termination? Perhaps it’s an easier or faster process in a case where the player is suspended? Expand Maybe he and his agent thought someone would pick him up? It probably wasn't a reasonable belief but such is life. 1 Quote
Broken Ankles Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:23 PM, Curt said: I wonder why, if this was going to be the outcome, Bogosian and Buffalo didn’t just agree to a mutual contract termination? Perhaps it’s an easier or faster process in a case where the player is suspended? Expand Don't you think he thought Terry/JB were going to pay the remainder of his salary (a la David Backes) and not have to report? Quote
triumph_communes Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:20 PM, Curt said: Slightly harsh. He is by all accounts a good guy. He just got injured a lot. Expand Evidence? Being the teams joker in the locker room doesn’t mean ‘good guy’. Call him a victim of his own contract if you wish, but he would have been in the KHL years ago without it. 1 Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:25 PM, Broken Ankles said: Don't you think he thought Terry/JB were going to pay the remainder of his salary (a la David Backes) and not have to report? Expand Well, these are real people who work together, so I would assume that before waiving him, they have a conversation. Tell him that they are planning to waive him and then send him to Rochester. If he had no intention of reporting to Rochester, which would lead to a suspension, you would think he would just tell them. Instead of going through the hoopla, they could just terminate the contract. Quote
bobs0108 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 Well this is good as long as we get the cap relief before the deadline so we can take a one year cap dump in a trade to get a better pick/prospect Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:25 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: Maybe he and his agent thought someone would pick him up? It probably wasn't a reasonable belief but such is life. Expand This seems likely. Even if they thought it was unlikely, this was probably the hope. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 Now terminate the contract. Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:28 PM, triumph_communes said: Evidence? Being the teams joker in the locker room doesn’t mean ‘good guy’. Call him a victim of his own contract if you wish, but he would have been in the KHL years ago without it. Expand People generally say nice things about him. Hasn’t he been described as Eichel’s best friend on the team? Yes, I think he is a victim of his contract. If he was making $1M per year all these years, no one would care to speak ill of him. Quote
Pimlach Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) On 2/17/2020 at 10:30 PM, Curt said: Well, these are real people who work together, so I would assume that before waiving him, they have a conversation. Tell him that they are planning to waive him and then send him to Rochester. If he had no intention of reporting to Rochester, which would lead to a suspension, you would think he would just tell them. Instead of going through the hoopla, they could just terminate the contract. Expand Exactly. It seems like they could have shorted circuited all this given the result. So they probably communicated a lot less than one would like. Edited February 17, 2020 by Pimlach Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) On 2/17/2020 at 10:35 PM, Pimlach said: Exactly. It seems like they could have shorted circuited all this given the result. So they probably communicated a lot less than one would like. Expand I’m going to go with what GA said. Bogo was probably hoping that someone would pick him up from waivers. It was unlikely, but for amount of money Bogo stood to keep, it was worth a shot and there was no reason for Buffalo to not oblige him. Edited February 17, 2020 by Curt 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:38 PM, Curt said: I’m going to go with what GA said. Bogo was probably hoping that someone would pick him up from waivers. It was unlikely, but for amount of money Bogo stood to keep, it was worth a shot. Expand The funny thing is if he had reported the Sabres would still pay him his full NHL contract and the Sabres would only save about $1 mill in cap. By not reporting we save his entire cap and he loses his remaining salary or about 1.4 mill. Stupid. Maybe he now hopes the Sabres lend him to another organization like they did with Moulson. I doubt this was done in a vacuum. I'm sure Jbot discussed the situation with him and gave him to info other team's GMs were saying. If I'm Jbot I terminate the contract. Quote
triumph_communes Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:43 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: The funny thing is if he had reported the Sabres would still pay him his full NHL contract and the Sabres would only save about $1 mill in cap. By not reporting we save his entire cap and he loses his remaining salary or about 1.4 mill. Stupid. Maybe he now hopes the Sabres lend him to another organization like they did with Moulson. I doubt this was done in a vacuum. I'm sure Jbot discussed the situation with him and gave him to info other team's GMs were saying. If I'm Jbot I terminate the contract. Expand Moulson didn’t openly demand trades. Reap what you sow 1 Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:43 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: The funny thing is if he had reported the Sabres would still pay him his full NHL contract and the Sabres would only save about $1 mill in cap. By not reporting we save his entire cap and he loses his remaining salary or about 1.4 mill. Stupid. Maybe he now hopes the Sabres lend him to another organization like they did with Moulson. I doubt this was done in a vacuum. I'm sure Jbot discussed the situation with him and gave him to info other team's GMs were saying. If I'm Jbot I terminate the contract. Expand That shows it’s not all about the money for him. If it was, he would just go to the AHL, as you say. He wants to try to catch on with a team and show he can play in the NHL. Quote
triumph_communes Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:47 PM, Curt said: That shows it’s not all about the money for him. If it was, he would just go to the AHL, as you say. He wants to try to catch on with a team and show he can play in the NHL. Expand Eh, I could say that he wants to show he can play in the NHL, in the NHL, because he’s trying to show off for his next contract. And he wasn’t going to do that in Buffalo and might not believe he could in Rochester. He’s forfeiting 1.4mil to salvage his career where he’s poised to make more. Quote
darksabre Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:01 PM, Brawndo said: His cap hit is now gone Expand Let's get weird! Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) On 2/17/2020 at 10:50 PM, triumph_communes said: Eh, I could say that he wants to show he can play in the NHL, in the NHL, because he’s trying to show off for his next contract. And he wasn’t going to do that in Buffalo and might not believe he could in Rochester. He’s forfeiting 1.4mil to salvage his career where he’s poised to make more. Expand Yeah, sure. That’s possible. I just don’t think it’s fair to describe Bogo as some big whiny pouter. I think he is a guy who has been through a lot to try to continue to be an NHL player and just wants a chance to play somewhere. Edited February 17, 2020 by Curt 1 Quote
triumph_communes Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 10:53 PM, Curt said: Yeah, sure. That’s possible. I just don’t think it’s fair to describe Bogo as some big whiny pouter. I think he is a guy who has been through a lot to try to continue to be an NHL player and just wants a chance to play somewhere. Expand Except, you know, fix the same injury he’s had for a decade Quote
Curt Posted February 17, 2020 Report Posted February 17, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 11:03 PM, triumph_communes said: Except, you know, fix the same injury he’s had for a decade Expand I don’t follow. What are you referring to. He has gone through multiple big surgeries and rehab to keep playing. Quote
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