Brawndo Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Posted January 19, 2020 These are bye week moves, with the Amerks having 3 games prior to the Sabres next game. 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted January 19, 2020 Report Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 3:20 PM, Brawndo said: These are bye week moves, with the Amerks having 3 games prior to the Sabres next game. Expand No rest for you! Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 19, 2020 Report Posted January 19, 2020 Amerks need to win some games. Good to have some of their better players back. 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted January 19, 2020 Report Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) On 1/19/2020 at 3:13 PM, Zamboni said: Expand Of course it's a good idea! Edit: Wait, that's not my idiom, sir! We need reinforcements to continue the AHL season. ---Send three squads to help. +++ Open the back door. (Rasmus the Third, Wilson, and Pilut the D-wing Pilot are covered by Ewoks during a Teddy Bear Toss Night.) Edited January 19, 2020 by DarthEbriate Quote
DarthEbriate Posted January 19, 2020 Report Posted January 19, 2020 Yeeesh. The Amerks are winless in their last 6. Help them, Pilu-Ras-Wilsonbi. You're their only hope! Quote
inkman Posted January 19, 2020 Report Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 4:15 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: Amerks need to win some games. Good to have some of their better players back. Expand They have been losing every game since Gilmore, Mittlestadt, CJ Smith and Remy Elie came back. The first two have been a big problem. Constant turnovers, not following their system. Quote
Huckleberry Posted January 19, 2020 Report Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) On 1/19/2020 at 7:44 PM, inkman said: They have been losing every game since Gilmore, Mittlestadt, CJ Smith and Remy Elie came back. The first two have been a big problem. Constant turnovers, not following their system. Expand If we can trade mittlestadt in the offseason we should do it. I have less faith in him than I did in Grigorenko. Edited January 19, 2020 by Huckleberry Quote
Tondas Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 3:20 PM, Brawndo said: These are bye week moves, with the Amerks having 3 games prior to the Sabres next game. Expand Saves some cap dollars too. Every little bit helps. Quote
Taro T Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 12:00 AM, Tondas said: Saves some cap dollars too. Every little bit helps. Expand Not picking on you particularly Tondas, because you are about the 15th person to say this this season, but for the love of all that's good and holy CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT MOVES TO SEND GUYS ON NEAR LEAGUE MINIMUM DEALS BACK/DOWN TO ROCHESTER ARE BEING MADE TO SAVE CAP SPACE?!?!? THEY AREN'T. As long as the Sabres are still over the leaguewide salary cap due to using the BF-LTIR salary cap exceedance provisions, they are not able to "bank" any salary cap space and they are getting no salary cap savings. They are saving real out of pocket $'s (at least for Pilut & Asplund, but IF Wilson is on a 1 way deal they don't even get those savings) but they are not gaining ANY salary cap space by making these moves. And at present the Sabres are nearly $2.5MM over the salary cap AFTER having sent those 3 down. Unless something like Bogosian's salary coming off the books happens there is no possibility of gaining salary cap relief this year. Quote
Tondas Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 12:30 AM, Taro T said: Not picking on you particularly Tondas, because you are about the 15th person to say this this season, but for the love of all that's good and holy CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SAYING THAT MOVES TO SEND GUYS ON NEAR LEAGUE MINIMUM DEALS BACK/DOWN TO ROCHESTER ARE BEING MADE TO SAVE CAP SPACE?!?!? THEY AREN'T. As long as the Sabres are still over the leaguewide salary cap due to using the BF-LTIR salary cap exceedance provisions, they are not able to "bank" any salary cap space and they are getting no salary cap savings. They are saving real out of pocket $'s (at least for Pilut & Asplund, but IF Wilson is on a 1 way deal they don't even get those savings) but they are not gaining ANY salary cap space by making these moves. And at present the Sabres are nearly $2.5MM over the salary cap AFTER having sent those 3 down. Unless something like Bogosian's salary coming off the books happens there is no possibility of gaining salary cap relief this year. Expand Thanks, Taro. I always get an education from those more knowledgeable. It's a big reason why I enjoy this board. 1 Quote
inkman Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 None of these guys made it to Hershey for today's game. Amerks lose 4-1 with 2 D playing forward. Mitts misses a wide open net by shooting the puck through the crease after being set up right next to the cage with no goalie to be found. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 12:48 AM, Tondas said: Thanks, Taro. I always get an education from those more knowledgeable. It's a big reason why I enjoy this board. Expand As mentioned, the "ire" was not directed at you personally in any way. Just hoping that maybe a "Liger style" rant might bring the point home that in order for the Sabres to gain any cap relief this season Botterill will need to move some substantial salary off the books and it isn't likely to happen. But especially if Sobotka will be out all season, the Sabres likely can take on a small amount of salary in any moves that do get made (because Sobotka and Hunwick effectively don't count against the cap). 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted January 20, 2020 Report Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 3:13 PM, Zamboni said: Expand Just until the break is done. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 22, 2020 Author Report Posted January 22, 2020 Pilut has been pulled out of the AHL All Star Game. He probably gets called back up Sunday or Monday Quote
pi2000 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 6:40 PM, Brawndo said: Pilut has been pulled out of the AHL All Star Game. He probably gets called back up Sunday or Monday Expand That sucks, he was probably looking forward to the California trip. Quote
Gatorman0519 Posted January 22, 2020 Report Posted January 22, 2020 Maybe he’s part of a trade in the works Quote
inkman Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 9:35 PM, Gatorman0519 said: Maybe he’s part of a trade in the works Expand Nope Quote
PerreaultForever Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/22/2020 at 6:40 PM, Brawndo said: Pilut has been pulled out of the AHL All Star Game. He probably gets called back up Sunday or Monday Expand I just don't get this. With all the extra D men why have him up? Why not have him playing down there until JBot unloads somebody? It's not like he was playing better than the rest up here (apart from Bogo). And can anyone explain why JBot traded for Miller if all they do is have him sit out???? Quote
Curt Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 8:24 AM, PerreaultForever said: I just don't get this. With all the extra D men why have him up? Why not have him playing down there until JBot unloads somebody? It's not like he was playing better than the rest up here (apart from Bogo). And can anyone explain why JBot traded for Miller if all they do is have him sit out???? Expand They probably want Pilut to play LD in the bottom 4. There is room for him on the left side. As for Miller, when Botterill acquired Miller, he probably didn’t know at the time that the opportunity to steal Jokiharju from Chicago would come up later, and maybe didn’t know that Jokiharju would be such a solid player right away. Quote
Taro T Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 11:50 AM, Curt said: They probably want Pilut to play LD in the bottom 4. There is room for him on the left side. As for Miller, when Botterill acquired Miller, he probably didn’t know at the time that the opportunity to steal Jokiharju from Chicago would come up later, and maybe didn’t know that Jokiharju would be such a solid player right away. Expand They definitely didn't expect Jokiharju to be a regular from the get go this season. And had Montour not been injured, Henri would've started the year in Ra-cha-cha. He was given an opportunity and ran with it and now there is no way he goes back to the minors. Good for him. And also correct on Pilut. Only 2 LHD's on the roster when he is in Ra-cha-cha. And though he struggles to move guys in front of his own net, which is why IMHO he'll never be more than a 4/5 and also why he's a greater risk for injury, the rest of his game is exactly what Botterill, and seemingly Krueger, look for in a D-man. Not sure why Miller is 7/8 on the depth chart. Again, IMHO, on any given night he should be 5/6/7 and should be getting about 1/2-3/4 of the starts. Bogosian should be the clear 8. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted January 23, 2020 Report Posted January 23, 2020 Ya, I get that Jokiharju surprised, but Miller seemed ok at the beginning of the year so I don't see the rush on Pilut. Bogo's terrible and McCabe has been off and on and is horrible some nights as well. I share the concern over Pilut's play in front of his own net. This is a weak area for us and he won't help solve it. He needs to be paired with a bigger body. Maybe Borgen's not ready, but I would look to develop pairs more than individuals on D. Quote
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