Trade: Calgary Michael Frolik to Buffalo for a 4th

[LGR4GM]

I'll give Frolik credit, on paper he looks ok. 3rd line lw level of okay. 

Edited January 3, 2020 by LGR4GM

[TrueBlueGED]

Jason Botterill does, in fact, still draw breath. That's all this series of moves means to me. 

[Derrico]

15 minutes ago, WildCard said:

Good call indeed Liger

So, meh for meh? Seems like Botterills strategy for improving a team is to have a bunch of jag offs running around 

Been like this for 3 losing seasons now.  Why not go back to the same well of surrounding Eichel with nothing but bottom 6 forwards.  I mean atleast he did ‘something’ FINALLY

[Zamboni]

2 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Well he traded one of our many D for a bottom 6 forward.   Its not exciting but its something at least.

Good thing is it will quiet the “do something!” fans...

 

? no ... it won’t.

[Curt]

5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

We have a surplus of left wingers. Shake a stick you'll hit 4

Frolic plays RW too

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Curt said:

Frolic plays RW too

Well... *****! That's actual good news. 

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, Marchand'sNose said:

Botterill is essentially rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic that has become the 2019-20 Sabres season (and also his GM career).

Nevertheless, I think it's a decent move. The problem is that a lot more of these types of small-time moves need to happen. And they need to happen preferably by last summer. Veterans like Scandella were brought in to improve the locker room culture as much as they were brought in for their on-ice talent. Clearly Scandella hasn't had an effect on the locker room culture, so good riddance.

Here are 6 more players that need to be moved as soon as possible: Bogosian, Miller, Sobotka, Rodrigues, Sheary, and Vesey. None of them will bring more than middle or late round picks or career AHL'ers in return, but my feeling is that their mere presence in the locker room is toxic and cancerous.

I just don't know if the types of big moves that can actually save the season and Botterill's job are out there right now. There are 30 other GM's in the league that likely have zero respect for our GM and so are likely only offering highly unfavorable trades.

 

Don't know what people expect Botts to pull out his ass at this point. Not defending the guy. He's lying in the bed he made.

[TrueBlueGED]

2 minutes ago, Zamboni said:

Good thing is it will quiet the “do something!” fans...

 

? no ... it won’t.

The only person who thinks this qualifies as doing something is Darcy Regier. 

[Carmel Corn]

1 minute ago, Curt said:

Frolic plays RW too

Hopefully so....but I think he is a left-handed shot.

[TrueBlueGED]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Don't know what people expect Botts to pull out his ass at this point. Not defending the guy. He's lying in the bed he made.

I certainly don't expect anything significant. Not sure anyone does, really. But he's gotta find out a way to salvage the season or there will be (more) pitchforks and torches. 

[Curt]

5 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

Hopefully so....but I think he is a left-handed shot.

He is, but he plays RW a lot.  He played almost all last season on a line with Tkachuk, who is a definite, full time LW.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Curt said:

He is, but he plays RW a lot.  He played almost all last season on a line with Tkachuk, who is a definite, full time LW.

Might explain his numbers last year. 

[Curt]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Might explain his numbers last year. 

Possibly.  I’m not saying he is going to be good even, but for Scandella/a 4th it’s about what I would expect.

[Derrico]

9 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said:

I certainly don't expect anything significant. Not sure anyone does, really. But he's gotta find out a way to salvage the season or there will be (more) pitchforks and torches. 

If Frolic salvages the season somehow then all the praise for Botts but jfc that looks like something I hope I’m not going to bet my job on.  Where was the forward upgrade in the summer?  This is the forward upgrade we’re looking at after months of speculation, pissing off veteran D by sitting them in the press box and have us sitting outside the playoffs yet again while staring at a real possibility of being a bottom 5 team yet again.  I mean atleast it’s something but after a full calendar year of basically sitting on his hands?  Not.  Nearly. Enough.

Edited January 3, 2020 by Derrico

[Curt]

Just now, Derrico said:

If Frolic salvages the season somehow then all the praise for Botts but jfc that looks like something I hope I’m not going to bet my job on.  Where was the forward upgrade in the summer?  This is the forward upgrade we’re looking at after months of speculation, pissing off veteran D by sitting them in the press box and have us sitting outside the playoffs yet again while staring at a real possibility of being a bottom 5 yet again.  I mean atleast it’s something but after a full calendar year of basically sitting on his hands?  Not.  Enough.

Johansson?  I know it’s not enough, but he was a good add.

[Derrico]

Just now, Curt said:

Johansson?  I know it’s not enough, but he was a good add.

We needed 5 more Johansson moves

[Curt]

Just now, Derrico said:

We needed 5 more Johansson moves

2 more, I would say.  I think that would make the forward group average at least.

[inkman]

15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Don't know what people expect Botts to pull out his ass at this point. Not defending the guy. He's lying in the bed he made.

And first line players aren't exactly falling off trees.  They got Eichel, Reinhart, Skinner, Johansson.  That's good talent.  

1 minute ago, Derrico said:

We needed 5 more Johansson moves

So wait 5 months? 

[inkman]

5 minutes ago, Derrico said:

We needed 5 more Johansson moves

He was a Free Agent.  That starts in July.  

[Derrico]

5 minutes ago, inkman said:

He was a Free Agent.  That starts in July.  

Gotcha.  But couldn’t we try for more than 1?  Especially coming off the decade er season we did last year?  Was one forward upgrade going to really be enough? 

[Stoner]

31 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said:

Jason Botterill does, in fact, still draw breath. That's all this series of moves means to me. 

But could it mean he got an ultimatum from Terry and he's actually on the hot seat?

[MODO Hockey]

wow, lol.. bottom 6th for scandella, what a fkn joke

[DarthEbriate]

39 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

I have a bachelor's degree in misreading hockey reference

In the lockout-shortened season no less.

[LTS]

29 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Don't know what people expect Botts to pull out his ass at this point. Not defending the guy. He's lying in the bed he made.

The bed he made was made by the GM before him and the owner as well.  Let's be real about that.

3 minutes ago, Derrico said:

Gotcha.  But couldn’t we try for more than 1?  Especially coming off the decade er season we did last year?  Was one forward upgrade going to really be enough? 

Who says they didn't?  Free agents are under no obligation to sign in Buffalo. What does Buffalo have to trade?  Would you have traded away the Cozens pick?

It's quite possible that Frolik gets a better shot in Buffalo at improving his numbers and he gets bounced to another team at the trade deadline.  Scandella wasn't going to be here next year... Frolik doesn't need to be here next year.

1 minute ago, MODO Hockey said:

wow, lol.. bottom 6th for scandella, what a fkn joke

You think Scandella warrants more than that?  Not a chance my friend.

[Curt]

1 minute ago, MODO Hockey said:

wow, lol.. bottom 6th for scandella, what a fkn joke

You wanted a top-6 for Scandella?

Yeah, me too, but then I remembered that this is real life.