MODO Hockey Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:49 AM, LTS said: The bed he made was made by the GM before him and the owner as well. Let's be real about that. Who says they didn't? Free agents are under no obligation to sign in Buffalo. What does Buffalo have to trade? Would you have traded away the Cozens pick? It's quite possible that Frolik gets a better shot in Buffalo at improving his numbers and he gets bounced to another team at the trade deadline. Scandella wasn't going to be here next year... Frolik doesn't need to be here next year. You think Scandella warrants more than that? Not a chance my friend. Expand Maybe not, still a joke though. On 1/3/2020 at 12:49 AM, Curt said: You wanted a top-6 for Scandella? Yeah, me too, but then I remembered that this is real life. Expand Well, this is still a very bad trade. 1 Quote
erickompositör72 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 Is he better than Sobotka? Because we were at the top of the standings and Skinner was scoring on a line with Sobotka. Just sayin... Quote
spndnchz Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 More bottom six forwards yes! ? 1 Quote
inkman Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:43 AM, Derrico said: Gotcha. But couldn’t we try for more than 1? Especially coming off the decade er season we did last year? Was one forward upgrade going to really be enough? Expand I think anyone with a pulse knew the Sabres forward depth was going to be an issue. The reliance on Mitts, Tage or whomever else JNOT thought was going to fill the bill was an egregious error. It's why they are where they are. They needed 2 more scorers. Relying on Sobotka for anything other than carrying the bags was also a the top of errors this off-season. Hopefully, he's learned something. 1 Quote
LTS Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:50 AM, MODO Hockey said: Maybe not, still a joke though. Well, this is still a very bad trade. Expand You make the moves you can make. Assuming there is something else out there is dangerous.. Not only that, but the Sabres have nothing to trade. They have a surplus of mediocre players. You aren't going to get superstars for them. So you try and trade mediocre player A for mediocre player B and hope that the situation the guy ends up in on your team helps him improve some amount more. They are little transactions, but sometimes that's all that can be made. Quote
Derrico Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:49 AM, LTS said: Who says they didn't? Free agents are under no obligation to sign in Buffalo. What does Buffalo have to trade? Would you have traded away the Cozens pick? Expand No I wouldn’t have. Go back and take a look what Vancouver gave up for JT Miller. 1 Quote
Derrico Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:55 AM, inkman said: I think anyone with a pulse knew the Sabres forward depth was going to be an issue. The reliance on Mitts, Tage or whomever else JNOT thought was going to fill the bill was an egregious error. It's why they are where they are. They needed 2 more scorers. Relying on Sobotka for anything other than carrying the bags was also a the top of errors this off-season. Hopefully, he's learned something. Expand Well we’re both on the same page here. But why does he not try to make another move or four after seeing this blow up in his face during the 18/19 season? He had all friggen offseason with a plethora of nhl caliber D at his disposal for trade. Quote
LTS Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:55 AM, Derrico said: No I wouldn’t have. Go back and take a look what Vancouver gave up for JT Miller. Expand Tampa doesn't play Vancouver 4 times a season. Which goaltender was Buffalo giving up? I would assume that Buffalo would have to pay more. Not only that, they are giving Tampa a first round pick.. that doesn't help Buffalo out in the long run either. 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:13 AM, LGR4GM said: I'll give Frolik credit, on paper he looks ok. 3rd line lw level of okay. Expand Reading through Flames fan boards, he seems to be a fan favorite as a hard working role player having a tough year offensively but maybe a change of scenery will help On 1/3/2020 at 12:47 AM, MODO Hockey said: wow, lol.. bottom 6th for scandella, what a fkn joke Expand Wow How can you think he’s worth anything more than that I’d say getting a 4th for him was more than he is worth 1 Quote
MODO Hockey Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:55 AM, LTS said: You make the moves you can make. Assuming there is something else out there is dangerous.. Not only that, but the Sabres have nothing to trade. They have a surplus of mediocre players. You aren't going to get superstars for them. So you try and trade mediocre player A for mediocre player B and hope that the situation the guy ends up in on your team helps him improve some amount more. They are little transactions, but sometimes that's all that can be made. Expand Yea i get it what your talking about but its still a very very bad trade, trading for another erod is pathetic to say the least. I dont like this trade at all. Making a trade just to make a trade is not the way to go, either you wait until something way better comes up, even if it doesnt contain scandella in the deal, or you dont make a trade at all, this is just bad, so so bad. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:50 AM, erickompositör72 said: Is he better than Sobotka? Because we were at the top of the standings and Skinner was scoring on a line with Sobotka. Just sayin... Expand He's a Sobotka. But with higher scoring upside. For a 4th, sure. He can log time with Skinner and Sobotka out and ERod upset. It also means that Bogosian is playing every game --- and frankly, Scandella was playing better than Bogo this year. So we've downgraded our defensive depth for another milquetoast Quote
Cityo'Rasmii Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:59 AM, thewookie1 said: Won a cup with Chicago in 2013 Expand nice upside Quote
Scottysabres Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:59 AM, DarthEbriate said: He's a Sobotka. But with higher scoring upside. For a 4th, sure. He can log time with Skinner and Sobotka out and ERod upset. It also means that Bogosian is playing every game --- and frankly, Scandella was playing better than Bogo this year. So we've downgraded our defensive depth for another milquetoast Expand Not according to Calgary fans. He's a defensive forward/pk specialist. I've read some and inquired, he's really helped Tkachuk's defensive game from every Calgary fan who responded. PK is a Sabres weakness, a defensive forward to help it, in exchange for Scandella? Sure, why not...…………….if it does indeed workout that is. Quote
LTS Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:58 AM, MODO Hockey said: Yea i get it what your talking about but its still a very very bad trade, trading for another erod is pathetic to say the least. I dont like this trade at all. Making a trade just to make a trade is not the way to go, either you wait until something way better comes up, even if it doesnt contain scandella in the deal, or you dont make a trade at all, this is just bad, so so bad. Expand Another E-Rod? Not even a chance.. I think Frolik is an improvement over Rodrigues in every way. He's stuck around the league and is playing at 31, something Rodrigues will be lucky to ever do. Quote
miles Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 This guy has a horrible hair cut, i hate this trade 2 1 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 1:02 AM, Scottysabres said: Not according to Calgary fans. He's a defensive forward/pk specialist. I've read some and inquired, he's really helped Tkachuk's defensive game from every Calgary fan who responded. PK is a Sabres weakness, a defensive forward to help it, in exchange for Scandella? Sure, why not...…………….if it does indeed workout that is. Expand If he kills penalties and is a good mentor to young guys the rest of the year (and if he pots 7 goals in the second half which appears to be be his recent average), and all he needed was a change of scenery, then it'll be good. I mean --- ideally --- he solidifies the middle 6 and gives us some flexibility to sit Sheary/Vesey/Asplund or whomever isn't up to snuff. (I'd say Sheary, because I like Asplund's potential.) On 1/3/2020 at 1:05 AM, miles said: This guy has a horrible hair cut, i hate this trade Expand We'll put him in a helmet. It'll work. It'll work. Quote
Thorner Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) On 1/3/2020 at 12:58 AM, LTS said: Tampa doesn't play Vancouver 4 times a season. Which goaltender was Buffalo giving up? I would assume that Buffalo would have to pay more. Not only that, they are giving Tampa a first round pick.. that doesn't help Buffalo out in the long run either. Expand We'd assuredly be better off with near point a game, 26 year old 2C JT Miller making 5 mil than we would be with Ryan Johnson, project long term ceiling bottom 4 defender. Edited January 3, 2020 by Thorny Quote
Ogre Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 1:03 AM, LTS said: Rodrigues will be lucky to ever do. Expand Let’s be honest. He’s lucky to have EVER played in the league. I was scratching my head when they called him up to begin with. 1 Quote
Derrico Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 1:07 AM, Thorny said: We're assuredly better off with near point a game, 26 year old 2C JT Miller than we would be Ryan Johnson, project long term ceiling bottom 4 defender. Expand No your just upset. It’s not the sabres fault for being irrelevant in a salary cap era for the last decade. Eye roll. Quote
Thorner Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 1:08 AM, Derrico said: No your just upset. It’s not the sabres fault for being irrelevant in a salary cap era for the last decade. Eye roll. Expand I'm on a crusade, after all, dishing out personal attacks left and right! 1 Quote
Derrico Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 1:07 AM, Ogre said: Let’s be honest. He’s lucky to have EVER played in the league. I was scratching my head when they called him up to begin with. Expand @WildCard close your eyes and walk away from the thread my friend ? 1 Quote
miles Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) On 1/3/2020 at 1:06 AM, DarthEbriate said: We'll put him in a helmet. It'll work. It'll work. Expand he better wear a helmet. i wont look at that terrible haircut...unless he shaves the bear, and leaves only a mustache. then its ok Edited January 3, 2020 by miles Quote
Curt Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 1:07 AM, Thorny said: We'd assuredly be better off with near point a game, 26 year old 2C JT Miller making 5 mil than we would be with Ryan Johnson, project long term ceiling bottom 4 defender. Expand What if it was for 13 goal, 47 point, JT Miller? Im shocked as heck that he is putting up the season that he is. Quote
pi2000 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:13 AM, LGR4GM said: I'll give Frolik credit, on paper he looks ok. 3rd line lw level of okay. Expand middle 6 depth, an area of need Quote
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