Brawndo Posted January 2, 2020 Report Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) Edited January 2, 2020 by Brawndo Quote
PerreaultForever Posted January 2, 2020 Report Posted January 2, 2020 So Scandella for Frolik. That's better. What's Frolik's contract? Quote
Randall Flagg Posted January 2, 2020 Report Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) If Frolik is the same player he was two seasons ago (I haven't thought about him since) then he's just more bottom six bad hockey. Looking now, it appears he had a bounceback season last season, though isn't playing well so far this year. Scandella has been far better for us this season than I expected he would be, so if Frolik is as bad as I remember, this is a bad swap Edited January 2, 2020 by Randall Flagg 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted January 2, 2020 Report Posted January 2, 2020 Lol, Frolik..... Botterill, you suck....lol 1 Quote
Randall Flagg Posted January 2, 2020 Report Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) The principle of the move is one we've all been waiting for. We'll see how he plays Edited January 2, 2020 by Randall Flagg 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 2, 2020 Report Posted January 2, 2020 39 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Calgary and Frolik I think but let's see 18 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: You're not gonna like it. I think he's clearing cap for Frolik. Frolik makes 4.3 in cap. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 2, 2020 Author Report Posted January 2, 2020 Nice call @LGR4GM He will be a candidate to flip at the trade deadline 1 Quote
WildCard Posted January 2, 2020 Report Posted January 2, 2020 Good call indeed Liger So, meh for meh? Seems like Botterills strategy for improving a team is to have a bunch of jag offs running around 2 2 1 Quote
Skibum Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) He's been very consistent at 40ish points per season and doesn't miss many games due to injury. He has a Selke trophy in his man cave. He's better than 8 of the current sabres forwards at a similar cap hit to Scandella. It's a start, anyway. Edited January 3, 2020 by Skibum 1 Quote
Kruppstahl Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 This is a nothing move. UFA out, UFA in. Frolik fits the profile of most of our forwards. Don't expect him to piss a drop. The good news is he will probably be gone after the season, so no big deal, and moves of this type will help get Botterill fired. Or, they aren't going to improve his job security. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Skibum said: He's been very consistent at 40ish points per season and doesn't miss many games due to injury. He has a Selke trophy in his man cave. He's better than 8 of the current sabres forwards. It's a start, anyway. He has never won any NHL hardware, not sure where you saw that. Quote
SwampD Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 I mentioned him in one of those “off the radar” trade threads what seem like 20 years ago. I liked him then. Not sure about him now. Change is good I guess. Quote
Skibum Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: He has never won any NHL hardware, not sure where you saw that. Ha ha, you're right. I was looking at Hockey Reference and mis-read it. He finished 25th for the Selke once. I was wrong, this guy sucks! But really, he's better than most of the bums they're running with right now. Edited January 3, 2020 by Skibum 1 3 Quote
Doohicksie Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, WildCard said: So, meh for meh? Strength for weakness. This should have been done in October. I'm not saying Frolik is a game changer, but this trade gets rid of a surplus NHL Dman for an NHL forward that is in short supply on the Sabres bench. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 I don't get it. This is solely because of skinner being injured I feel. Just what we need, another lw. 1 Quote
Zamboni Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 Two trades ... ok. Cool. Well, we’ll see if JB has more to come. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Skibum said: Ha ha, you're right. I was looking at Hockey Reference and mis-read it. He finished 25th for the Selke once. I was wrong, this guy sucks! But really, he's better than most of the bums they're running with right now. I have a bachelor's degree in misreading hockey reference 2 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 Just now, Doohickie said: Strength for weakness. This should have been done in October. I'm not saying Frolik is a game changer, but this trade gets rid of a surplus NHL Dman for an NHL forward that is in short supply on the Sabres bench. We have a surplus of left wingers. Shake a stick you'll hit 4 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 Well he traded one of our many D for a bottom 6 forward. Its not exciting but its something at least. 1 Quote
PalmTreeMafia Posted January 3, 2020 Report Posted January 3, 2020 Botterill is essentially rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic that has become the 2019-20 Sabres season (and also his GM career). Nevertheless, I think it's a decent move. The problem is that a lot more of these types of small-time moves need to happen. And they need to happen preferably by last summer. Veterans like Scandella were brought in to improve the locker room culture as much as they were brought in for their on-ice talent. Clearly Scandella hasn't had an effect on the locker room culture, so good riddance. Here are 6 more players that need to be moved as soon as possible: Bogosian, Miller, Sobotka, Rodrigues, Sheary, and Vesey. None of them will bring more than middle or late round picks or career AHL'ers in return, but my feeling is that their mere presence in the locker room is toxic and cancerous. I just don't know if the types of big moves that can actually save the season and Botterill's job are out there right now. There are 30 other GM's in the league that likely have zero respect for our GM and so are likely only offering highly unfavorable trades. 1 Quote
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