Stoner Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) For those who have a need to get up to speed: 1. Is it back spasms? 2. Was it from getting dumped in Toronto or did something happen in warmup? 3. What have the Sabres said about it? 4. What's the prognosis? Edited December 20, 2019 by PASabreFan Quote
pastajoe Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 Some reports say he actually had the flu. I suspect he saw Hutton was starting and figured why waste his energy. 1 1 Quote
inkman Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 Maybe he had the ol brown bottle flu? Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 As long as its not the Kremlin Flu. Quote
miles Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 on the flyers broadcast last night they said back spasms Quote
Kr632 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 I wouldn’t doubt it if he has the flu. Pretty much everyone I know in Buffalo has it or had it in last week or two. Quote
miles Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kr632 said: I wouldn’t doubt it if he has the flu. Pretty much everyone I know in Buffalo has it or had it in last week or two. as a germaphobe. if he has the flu, he shouldnt have been at the stadium, or should have only been in the flyers locker room. 1 Quote
matter2003 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Kr632 said: I wouldn’t doubt it if he has the flu. Pretty much everyone I know in Buffalo has it or had it in last week or two. Hey don't jinx me!! Anyone left who doesn't want it should go buy a bottle of Sambucol Elderberry extract and start taking it...prevents viruses from being able to replicate. Quote
Ogre Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Hey don't jinx me!! Anyone left who doesn't want it should go buy a bottle of Sambucol Elderberry extract and start taking it...prevents viruses from being able to replicate. We make a homemade elderberry syrup that my wife cans. I absolutely hate the taste of elderberries so I just take it as medicine. Clinical trials done in Israel in the early 90’s and in Norway in 2003 claim that elderberries improve flu symptoms quicker than Tamiflu does. I take clinical experiments with a grain of salt but I swear by elderberries for health. https://theherbaltoad.com/blog/elderberry-vs-tamiflu/ 2 Quote
Sidc3000 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 6 hours ago, miles said: on the flyers broadcast last night they said back spasms I call BS on that only because its coming front Philly homer announcers. That very well could have been Saying that tongue and check eluding to the fact that Eichel is literally carrying the Sabres. That was proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, last night. It looked like they were completely lost without him. Quote
MattPie Posted December 20, 2019 Report Posted December 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, Ogre said: We make a homemade elderberry syrup that my wife cans. I absolutely hate the taste of elderberries so I just take it as medicine. Clinical trials done in Israel in the early 90’s and in Norway in 2003 claim that elderberries improve flu symptoms quicker than Tamiflu does. I take clinical experiments with a grain of salt but I swear by elderberries for health. https://theherbaltoad.com/blog/elderberry-vs-tamiflu/ We make the house smell of elderberries using a pressure cooker. 2 c of dried berries to 6c of later yields around 7 cups of liquid after straining. We experimented with adding stuff like cinnamon and honey but have gotten back to straight juice. 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 22, 2019 Report Posted December 22, 2019 I think it was bruised ribs (and maybe back spasms is essentially a name for the same condition). If you watched him on Saturday, he often showed body language like he was gassed or in pain. It seems consistent with everything that's been said. Quote
hsif Posted December 22, 2019 Report Posted December 22, 2019 Elderberries are intended to be taken in pie form. Not syrups, not extracts, pies.............. delicious............. purple............... pies......... Quote
matter2003 Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) On 12/20/2019 at 3:25 PM, Ogre said: We make a homemade elderberry syrup that my wife cans. I absolutely hate the taste of elderberries so I just take it as medicine. Clinical trials done in Israel in the early 90’s and in Norway in 2003 claim that elderberries improve flu symptoms quicker than Tamiflu does. I take clinical experiments with a grain of salt but I swear by elderberries for health. https://theherbaltoad.com/blog/elderberry-vs-tamiflu/ It helps with pretty much any virus. They had a study that showed in clinical trials that a cocktail that contained Elderberry, Cinnamon and a few other natural things was as effective against HIV as some of the early drugs being used. Can't remember if it binds to our cell receptors or the virus receptors, but it basically binds to the area where the virus attaches to the cells in the body to infect them. Since it can't bind to these cells, the virus basically just gets attacked or flushed out of the body eventually without being able to infect you. Edited December 23, 2019 by matter2003 1 1 Quote
sabills Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 16 hours ago, hsif said: Elderberries are intended to be taken in pie form. Not syrups, not extracts, pies.............. delicious............. purple............... pies......... My family's dog once ate an elderberry pie that was supposed to be for my dad's birthday. Its been 10 years since then, the dog went to doggie heaven over a year ago now, and my dad still hasn't forgiven her. 2 Quote
TheAud Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 Non-concussion related migraines? Bothersome psoriasis? Stiff neck? Raging herpes? Tooth ache? Sinus infection? Chemical induced asthma? Bi-polar disorder? Temporary blindness or deafness? Can someone please just tell us so we can go on with our lives? Quote
Kruppstahl Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Sakman said: Non-concussion related migraines? Bothersome psoriasis? Stiff neck? Raging herpes? Tooth ache? Sinus infection? Chemical induced asthma? Bi-polar disorder? Temporary blindness or deafness? Can someone please just tell us so we can go on with our lives? My guess is a nagging quasi-high ankle sprain or something like that. Something that has been bothering him for a while but has been kept in check. It flared up the other night in the pre-game skate and they figured better to rest that night than have the situation blossom into a full blown injury in the game. Quote
sabills Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Kruppstahl said: My guess is a nagging quasi-high ankle sprain or something like that. Something that has been bothering him for a while but has been kept in check. It flared up the other night in the pre-game skate and they figured better to rest that night than have the situation blossom into a full blown injury in the game. Must be pretty high on the ankle if its an upper body injury? Quote
Kruppstahl Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, sabills said: Must be pretty high on the ankle if its an upper body injury? Yeah, I don't put much into that crap. Do you? Quote
sabills Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kruppstahl said: Yeah, I don't put much into that crap. Do you? eh, its so broad, why not just call it a lower body injury then? And I think they do have SOME accountability to the league to be honest about it. I know with the NFL you can get fined if they find out you outright lied about an injury report; I assume the NHL is similar. Not that they couldn't do it, or that it doesn't happen, but I don't see why they'd bother when its already so obfuscated. Quote
skaught Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, sabills said: Must be pretty high on the ankle if its an upper body injury? High ankle, that's slang for wrist I think. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted December 23, 2019 Report Posted December 23, 2019 Given how he talked about it -- as something he'd been grinding through but could not in Philly -- and further given its designation as a UBI (which I do think can be accepted at face value), I think the theories upthread about it being back spasms/rib contusion(s) make perfect sense. Quote
Stoner Posted December 23, 2019 Author Report Posted December 23, 2019 2 hours ago, That Aud Smell said: Given how he talked about it -- as something he'd been grinding through but could not in Philly -- and further given its designation as a UBI (which I do think can be accepted at face value), I think the theories upthread about it being back spasms/rib contusion(s) make perfect sense. Ol' Doc Brawndo's observation was an intriguing one, though. Mayhaps the peepercising was just calisthenics for Jack's healthy brain? Quote
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