Curt Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/17/2020 at 8:28 PM, Weave said: Given the frequency that college kids go the full 4 yrs and choose free agency, this may have been JBotts play to prevent losing the kid in a couple years. I think that is the most likely scenario. Expand This actually does not happen very often. For 1st round picks it’s almost unheard of. For a top 10 pick? I don’t think it’s ever happened. Quote
tom webster Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 2:22 AM, Curt said: This actually does not happen very often. For 1st round picks it’s almost unheard of. For a top 10 pick? I don’t think it’s ever happened. Expand Blake Wheeler was 5th pick of Phoenix, never signed and then signed with the Bruins as free agent. Quote
Curt Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 2:26 AM, tom webster said: Blake Wheeler was 5th pick of Phoenix, never signed and then signed with the Bruins as free agent. Expand Huh. Is he the only one ever??? Quote
tom webster Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 2:31 AM, Curt said: Huh. Is he the only one ever??? Expand As far as being drafted that high I’m sure he is. I know the Sabre’s lost Barret Heisten years ago and he was a late first rounder. Quote
Two or less Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 2:31 AM, Curt said: Huh. Is he the only one ever??? Expand Kevin Hayes (2010) drafted by Chicago, played out in college then signed with NYR and also our new GM Kevyn Adams, drafted by Boston but decided to sign with Toronto after his college days were over. Quote
Curt Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 8:17 AM, Reino23 said: Kevin Hayes (2010) drafted by Chicago, played out in college then signed with NYR and also our new GM Kevyn Adams, drafted by Boston but decided to sign with Toronto after his college days were over. Expand Tom and I were talking specifically about high 1st round picks. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 Casey played 1 year of college and doesn't understand how to play away from the puck. This hand ringing over what if he played all 4 years is funny. He should have spent another year in college or signed and then spent a full year in Rochester. If Mitts agreed to the handshake deal of NHL only and stuck with that, he has himself to blame. He can still reach his potential but I hope his attitude is different because he's not an NHL player yet. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 1:04 PM, LGR4GM said: Casey played 1 year of college and doesn't understand how to play away from the puck. This hand ringing over what if he played all 4 years is funny. He should have spent another year in college or signed and then spent a full year in Rochester. If Mitts agreed to the handshake deal of NHL only and stuck with that, he has himself to blame. He can still reach his potential but I hope his attitude is different because he's not an NHL player yet. Expand I agree except I’ll reserve judgement on whether he is NHL ready until I see him in camp next fall. Taylor was very complimentary on his improvement on the ice and off. Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 1:28 PM, GASabresIUFAN said: I agree except I’ll reserve judgement on whether he is NHL ready until I see him in camp next fall. Taylor was very complimentary on his improvement on the ice and off. Expand Based on interviews I have seen of Casey and despite his talent I question his attitude... not sure if coaching can find the right buttons to motivate him... hopefully they can but he seems too immature still. Someone needs to light a fire under this guys arse. Could be just hand holding and encouraging more not sure and occasional fire but the kid needs to grow up... too much awe shucks... not enough fire in the belly... bit like Sam early on... so there is hope... imo kid is extremely talented but. 1 Quote
shrader Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 2:40 AM, tom webster said: As far as being drafted that high I’m sure he is. I know the Sabre’s lost Barret Heisten years ago and he was a late first rounder. Expand That one was the Van Ryn loophole, something that no longer exists. Quote
tom webster Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 2:52 PM, shrader said: That one was the Van Ryn loophole, something that no longer exists. Expand I knew there have been different adjustments to the rules but didn’t want to do the research. Thanks. Quote
Kruppstahl Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 1:55 AM, darksabre said: Casey's development isn't the concern. It's that he spent a year in Buffalo and wasted our time. Expand Mittelstadt is a bust and is going to remain that way. Looking back at Botterill's three years in Buffalo, we have very little fresh blood in the organization to show for it. Cozens looks like a solid hit, but who knows. Then there's UPL. Beyond that... Quote
dudacek Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 4:04 PM, Kruppstahl said: Mittelstadt is a bust and is going to remain that way. Looking back at Botterill's three years in Buffalo, we have very little fresh blood in the organization to show for it. Cozens looks like a solid hit, but who knows. Then there's UPL. Beyond that... Expand With the number of people who feel this way, the number of complaints about “Black Tuesday” is eyebrow raising. Im going to start calling it “Unicorns, Rainbows and Jujubes Tuesday” Go Kevyn. Go Ralph. 1 Quote
shrader Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 4:09 PM, dudacek said: With the number of people who feel this way, the number of complaints about “Black Tuesday” is eyebrow raising. Im going to start calling it “Unicorns, Rainbows and Jujubes Tuesday” Go Kevyn. Go Ralph. Expand I was going to request that the jujubes don't have the awful licorice flavor, but then I realized I was mixing up jujubes and jujyfruit. Seinfeld has too much power over me. Quote
Thorner Posted June 18, 2020 Report Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/17/2020 at 4:20 PM, LGR4GM said: Then Botterill truly is a complete and total ***** idiot. Expand Quote
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