sweetlou Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 With the signings of Konecny and Boeser it is time for JBotts to extend Reinhart and not wait until next off season. We know what type of player he is. He will get you between 20-30 goals and 55-65 pts. If you extend him now you don't take the chance on him having a great year and demanding even more. I believe a 6 year $39 million contract with an AAV of $6.5 is appropriate for Sam. Quote
Broken Ankles Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 If we were playing Card Sharks, I’d say “Jim, I’m going higher”. Quote
erickompositör72 Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, sweetlou said: With the signings of Konecny and Boeser it is time for JBotts to extend Reinhart and not wait until next off season. We know what type of player he is. He will get you between 20-30 goals and 55-65 pts. If you extend him now you don't take the chance on him having a great year and demanding even more. I believe a 6 year $39 million contract with an AAV of $6.5 is appropriate for Sam. For this reason, I’m betting Sam is perfectly happy to wait till the season is over to negotiate Quote
triumph_communes Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 Only players like Eichel demand his agent foregoes money and signs a season in advance. Reinhart is going to squeeze every penny he can. Quote
LGR4GM Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 Did Botterill say something about waiting until January to negotiate? I thought I read that somewhere. Quote
spndnchz Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Did Botterill say something about waiting until January to negotiate? I thought I read that somewhere. I think I remember that too. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Did Botterill say something about waiting until January to negotiate? I thought I read that somewhere. If true, that’s a pretty questionable decision from the GM. I highly doubt Reinhart would even be open to an extension right now (missed the boat on that last summer), but you’d think they’d least approach him about the possibility, before the AAV gets even higher next off season. 1 Quote
#freejame Posted September 17, 2019 Report Posted September 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Scottysabres said: 1 Quote
sweetlou Posted September 18, 2019 Author Report Posted September 18, 2019 Two ways to look at the negotiations. 1.Reinhart- I had a good year last year playing with Jack and Skinner. They are talking about playing me on second line where I may not produce as much to help the team out by having more balanced lines. I can cash in now. 2. Reinhart- By playing on second line, I can show I can produce without Jack and Skinner. I will wait until next year and demand higher salary as a player that can drive a line. Quote
LGR4GM Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 16 hours ago, Thorny said: If true, that’s a pretty questionable decision from the GM. I highly doubt Reinhart would even be open to an extension right now (missed the boat on that last summer), but you’d think they’d least approach him about the possibility, before the AAV gets even higher next off season. So it's a questionable decision by the GM but you then acknowledge it's doubtful Reinhart is open to the extension right now. What if, Reinhart told botterill he wants to wait and botterill said okay. Quote
Thorner Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 5 hours ago, LGR4GM said: So it's a questionable decision by the GM but you then acknowledge it's doubtful Reinhart is open to the extension right now. What if, Reinhart told botterill he wants to wait and botterill said okay. Then that’s a different story. But that’s not what the basis of my post was, was it? I was responding to the purported idea that BOTTERILL made the choice to not attempt a negotiation. Quote
miles Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 It would be a shame for them to not lock him up long term. Or at least 3 or 4 year deal. Unless injury happens, I dont see him going backwards Quote
nfreeman Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 Here's the key question IMHO: If you think that a team can have 4 or maybe 5 highly-paid guys, since Skinner, Eichel and Dahlin are locks for 3 of those slots -- do you want to commit to Reino as being the 4th? i.e. are you willing to lock in your core for the next 5 years as Skinner, Eichel, Dahlin and Reino? Or do you want to wait and see if you can find someone better? Because once you give Reino that 7- or 8-year deal -- you are married to him and married to that core. Quote
pi2000 Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 Sadly, my expert opinion is that Samuel Rineheart doesn't fit the mold of what Jay Boderil is trying to build here. I would not be surprised to see him shipped out at some point here in the not too distant future. Quote
dudacek Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, nfreeman said: Here's the key question IMHO: If you think that a team can have 4 or maybe 5 highly-paid guys, since Skinner, Eichel and Dahlin are locks for 3 of those slots -- do you want to commit to Reino as being the 4th? i.e. are you willing to lock in your core for the next 5 years as Skinner, Eichel, Dahlin and Reino? Or do you want to wait and see if you can find someone better? Because once you give Reino that 7- or 8-year deal -- you are married to him and married to that core. This, and you want to trade for Laine? 1 Quote
nfreeman Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: This, and you want to trade for Laine? I didn't say that I wanted to give Laine an 8-year deal though. Quote
#freejame Posted September 18, 2019 Report Posted September 18, 2019 3 hours ago, pi2000 said: Sadly, my expert opinion is that Samuel Rineheart doesn't fit the mold of what Jay Boderil is trying to build here. I would not be surprised to see him shipped out at some point here in the not too distant future. Who tf is Samuel? **insert “I wanna talk to Samson” gif here** 3 hours ago, nfreeman said: Here's the key question IMHO: If you think that a team can have 4 or maybe 5 highly-paid guys, since Skinner, Eichel and Dahlin are locks for 3 of those slots -- do you want to commit to Reino as being the 4th? i.e. are you willing to lock in your core for the next 5 years as Skinner, Eichel, Dahlin and Reino? Or do you want to wait and see if you can find someone better? Because once you give Reino that 7- or 8-year deal -- you are married to him and married to that core. Reinhart is a better hockey player than Skinner so yes. 1 1 Quote
pi2000 Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, #freejame said: Reinhart is a better hockey player than Skinner so yes. 2 1 Quote
Zamboni Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 Everyone can have a different opinion but please for God’s sake let’s not have yet another Sabres player vs. player pissing contest. It’s tired. Skinner excels in places Reinhart doesn’t. And Reinhart excels in places Skinner doesn’t. I’m glad they are different like that. 2 Quote
pi2000 Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 Just now, Zamboni said: Everyone can have a different opinion but please for God’s sake let’s not have yet another Sabres player vs. player pissing contest. It’s tired. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 My ranking would be as follows Eichel Skinner Reinhart/Dahlin Johansson (speculation)/Montour Risto Rodrigues (Wouldn't be surprised if others had him lower) McCabe Vesey Larsson The rest Quote
Taro T Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: My ranking would be as follows Eichel Skinner Reinhart/Dahlin Johansson (speculation)/Montour Risto Rodrigues (Wouldn't be surprised if others had him lower) McCabe Vesey Larsson The rest Be ready for it, because you are about to get ripped a new one by the Liger. (How DARE you put Dahlin at 3/4 overall.) Hoping Reinhart can be signed for 6.5-7MM/ year over 7-8 years, but expect he'll earn &¡ want closer to Skinner's deal. Quote
LGR4GM Posted September 19, 2019 Report Posted September 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Taro T said: Be ready for it, because you are about to get ripped a new one by the Liger. (How DARE you put Dahlin at 3/4 overall.) Hoping Reinhart can be signed for 6.5-7MM/ year over 7-8 years, but expect he'll earn &¡ want closer to Skinner's deal. I'm too tired. 1 Quote
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