Hurricanes Sign Jake Gardiner: 4 year deal

[WildCard]

https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/news/canes-sign-jake-gardiner-to-four-year-deal/c-308937626

 Don Waddell, President and General Manager of the National Hockey League's Carolina Hurricanes, today announced that the team has signed defenseman Jake Gardiner to a four-year contract. The deal pays Gardiner an average annual value (AAV) of $4.05 million. 

Edited September 6, 2019 by WildCard

[Randall Flagg]

Wow. Glad we didn't go 4 years 

[darksabre]

Interesting.

[dudacek]

 Canes have five D making more than $4 million and are over the cap.

Laine for Dougie Hamilton incoming.

Edited September 6, 2019 by dudacek

[TrueBlueGED]

15 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

Wow. Glad we didn't go 4 years 

I wouldn't have loved 4 years, but I think there's a better chance he ends up on LTIR than he's a healthy albatross like Scandella. 

[That Aud Smell]

Huh.

[Randall Flagg]

12 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said:

I wouldn't have loved 4 years, but I think there's a better chance he ends up on LTIR than he's a healthy albatross like Scandella. 

I'm just trying to stem the slight letdown I feel - I was partial to those scenarios where we flip Risto to upgrade the forwards and then bring in Gardiner such that our defense wasn't even a man down, much less worse 

[Randall Flagg]

Another concern is that now teams can move to Faulk if they don't want to pony up for Risto.

[Thorner]

That seems like a fair contract for Gardiner, to me. He makes less than Tyler Myers ?

56 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said:

Another concern is that now teams can move to Faulk if they don't want to pony up for Risto.

This is my main concern. I guess the RFAs aren't holding up everything, eh? Gardiner signs and now Carolina may scoop up that Risto return.

Though perhaps this makes it more likely Risto isn't moved for futures (cap space potentially allocated to Gardiner in that imagined scenario)

Edited September 6, 2019 by Thorny

[triumph_communes]

All this does is make McCabe no longer expendable. I wouldn’t have done 4 years for him. 

 

I dint think it disrupts Risto trade except for with the Ducks

Edited September 6, 2019 by triumph_communes

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, triumph_communes said:

All this does is make McCabe no longer expendable. I wouldn’t have done 4 years for him. 

For all the talk of our surplus at D, it's really only at RHD. With Pilut injured, the LD depth chart reads:

Dahlin

McCabe

Scandella

..with Hunwick out I don't believe we even have an extra there. And Scandella is someone we were hoping wasn't going to see regular minutes this year. 

Edited September 6, 2019 by Thorny

[triumph_communes]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

For all the talk of our surplus at D, it's really only at RHD. With Pilut injured, the LD depth chart reads:

Dahlin

McCabe

Scandella

..with Hunwick out I don't believe we even have an extra there. 

 

Dahlin sliding over in a pinch. Prospects are a couple years out yes.

[Thorner]

Just now, triumph_communes said:

 

Dahlin sliding over in a pinch. Prospects are a couple years out yes.

To the right? We need him on the left. 

[triumph_communes]

Just now, Thorny said:

To the right? We need him on the left. 

To start the season yes. 

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, triumph_communes said:

To start the season yes. 

I'd say it's pretty likely Dahlin stays on the left for the majority of his career. 

[inkman]

1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said:

I'm just trying to stem the slight letdown I feel - I was partial to those scenarios where we flip Risto to upgrade the forwards and then bring in Gardiner such that our defense wasn't even a man down, much less worse 

You can't get let down if you don't get your hopes up

/2019-2020 Buffalo Sabres 

[Taro T]

Disappointing that Gardiner signed with the Canes.  $'s seem quite reasonable and I'd've expected him to get $0.5-1MM more/ year. 

Doubt the 4th year is too many, as if his back does keep him out by then he can retire due to injury (gets his $'s/ no cap hit) or he goes BF-LTIR (which is comparable).

[Derrico]

3 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Disappointing that Gardiner signed with the Canes.  $'s seem quite reasonable and I'd've expected him to get $0.5-1MM more/ year. 

Doubt the 4th year is too many, as if his back does keep him out by then he can retire due to injury (gets his $'s/ no cap hit) or he goes BF-LTIR (which is comparable).

I would have liked to have signed him for that.

[WildCard]

 

[ddaryl]

18 minutes ago, inkman said:

You can't get let down if you don't get your hopes up

/2019-2020 Buffalo Sabres 

Yes you do, Just ask James Brown

 

[dudacek]

It feels like Carolina is pre-empting Botterill’s planned move again, just like in the O’Reilly talks when we should have had Lindholm.

[Thorner]

21 minutes ago, dudacek said:

It feels like Carolina is pre-empting Botterill’s planned move again, just like in the O’Reilly talks when we should have had Lindholm.

We have to wait for the market to set. 

[TrueBlueGED]

46 minutes ago, dudacek said:

It feels like Carolina is pre-empting Botterill’s planned move again, just like in the O’Reilly talks when we should have had Lindholm.

Wait, what? 

[dudacek]

6 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said:

Wait, what? 

Cant give you a source, but there were apparently O’Reilly Lindholm talks prior to the Canes making the Calgary deal.

Edited September 6, 2019 by dudacek

[Randall Flagg]

The official story is that we were in in-depth talks with the Canes, and jame thinks it was 1 for 1 Lindholm for ROR, but I talked to the guy he got that from on twitter and the guy could only confirm that the Sabres really wanted Lindholm but the Canes weren't willing to pay the bonus.