ERod -- 1 yr, $2MM, after being > $1 million apart in arbitration

[nfreeman]

Is he a UFA after this year?

[That Aud Smell]

5 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

Is he a UFA after this year?

This says "no."

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/evan-rodrigues

[Tondas]

Starting to get interesting.  Cap space at $3,115,476 with Jake and Linus still to go.  JBOT has a plan but what is it?

[Zamboni]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

I would not trade Larsson , he is an excellent 4C.

He’s a pretty good 4C. I guess I personally wouldn’t use the word excellent when describing Larsson.

[Huckleberry]

9 minutes ago, Tondas said:

Starting to get interesting.  Cap space at $3,115,476 with Jake and Linus still to go.  JBOT has a plan but what is it?

Scandella trade.

[Zamboni]

11 minutes ago, Tondas said:

Starting to get interesting.  Cap space at $3,115,476 with Jake and Linus still to go.  JBOT has a plan but what is it?

Shedding a D or two.

[Tondas]

1 minute ago, Zamboni said:

Shedding a D or two.

For picks, correct?  Can't take on salary.

[shrader]

33 minutes ago, LTS said:

Why am I under the impression that you cannot bury a contract in the AHL or via loan to another team to save against the cap?

I remember that you USED to be able to bury people in the AHL for that purpose, but I thought they killed that.  It seems that if you could loan a player somewhere then every team would be able to solve their cap problems by doing that wouldn't they?  

 

You can bury PART of the contract in the AHL.  I forget the specific number, but let's just pretend it's the NHL minimum.  That is the amount that can be buried.  Any amount over that figure still counts against the cap.  So if a guy makes $2 million and the cutoff line is $600k, that player would still count as $1.4 million against the cap.

This only counts for one-way contracts though.  A two-way deal does not count against the cap if they're sent down.

[Thorner]

52 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

Is he a UFA after this year?

 

47 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

This says "no."

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/evan-rodrigues

Correct. He's 27 on July 1, 2021 though, so this will be his final deal that he's RFA at the end. 

I think this factors in to why they didn't go for something like a 3 year deal before the arb ruling kicked in. It would only be buying 1 UFA year. We'd be looking at a 4-5 year, 2-3 mil per deal this summer to avoid that, and that's more the province of Nashville. 

Botterill probably taking this season to evaluate whether or not he gets a long term deal. 

Edited July 25, 2019 by Thorny

[Taro T]

11 minutes ago, shrader said:

You can bury PART of the contract in the AHL.  I forget the specific number, but let's just pretend it's the NHL minimum.  That is the amount that can be buried.  Any amount over that figure still counts against the cap.  So if a guy makes $2 million and the cutoff line is $600k, that player would still count as $1.4 million against the cap.

This only counts for one-way contracts though.  A two-way deal does not count against the cap if they're sent down.

You can bury ~$350k over the league minimum (don't have access to the exact $ amount at present) of a 1 way contract in the minors.  So you can save a small amount by calling up somebody on a league minimum deal.  But they get very little relief by doing so. 

The NHLPA didn't want anymore Reddens.  They want vets that lose their jobs to get bought out if they are untradable rather than be buried permanently in the minors.  Presumably once FA's they can negotiate a cheaper deal with somebody else.

[Brawndo]

Every Team has a second buyout period that begins after the last arbitration case

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, LTS said:

Why am I under the impression that you cannot bury a contract in the AHL or via loan to another team to save against the cap?

I remember that you USED to be able to bury people in the AHL for that purpose, but I thought they killed that.  It seems that if you could loan a player somewhere then every team would be able to solve their cap problems by doing that wouldn't they?  

 

The CBA allows up to 1.075 cap savings per buried contract for contracts of 1.075 or greater.  Contracts under 1.075 you get a dollar for dollar cap savings.

Edited July 25, 2019 by GASabresIUFAN

[GASabresIUFAN]

1yr 2 Million

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/nhl-free-agency-2019-sabres-evan-rodrigues-awarded-2-million-contract/120tikxk8itwj14ofp4oviwzva

Edited July 26, 2019 by GASabresIUFAN

[GASabresIUFAN]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nhl/news/nhl-free-agency-2019-sabres-evan-rodrigues-awarded-2-million-contract/120tikxk8itwj14ofp4oviwzva

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Very reasonable.  I actually thought it would be for a bit more.  Why only 1 year?

[Thorner]

16 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

Very reasonable.  I actually thought it would be for a bit more.  Why only 1 year?

Team picks term b/c player initiated arbitration. They have the choice between 1 or 2 year deal, and a 2 year deal would have left him an UFA at time of expiry. 

[Tondas]

Article says E-Rod was awarded a contract.  It this final or could the Sabres walk away?

[tom webster]

15 minutes ago, Tondas said:

Article says E-Rod was awarded a contract.  It this final or could the Sabres walk away?

The Sabre’s confirmed they signed him to contact awarded by arbitration.

The interesting thing is that by accepting the arbitration decision the Sabre’s are now able to initiate a buy out of another player when second buy out window opens.

[Zamboni]

I’m fine with this. See if he has a nice year that proves his worth. Low risk.

[SwampD]

He’ll be underpaid. Term is in his favor, though.

[GoPuckYourself]

I'm on the fence with Erod, I think he's just a guy taking up a spot to be honest, he's a hard worker but he really isn't great at any one particular thing imo. Hopefully he is upgraded next offseason, I think we can do better.

[PerreaultForever]

I personally think it's a little high for him but the term/timing is perfect. If he gets even better and earns the 2 mil he will have proven he's worth signing longer term and if he doesn't, they can cut him loose. So it's reasonable either way.

Now go prove it E-Rod. make yourself underpaid again. 

[Thorner]

4 hours ago, Tondas said:

Article says E-Rod was awarded a contract.  It this final or could the Sabres walk away?

 

4 hours ago, tom webster said:

The Sabre’s confirmed they signed him to contact awarded by arbitration.

The interesting thing is that by accepting the arbitration decision the Sabre’s are now able to initiate a buy out of another player when second buy out window opens.

Correct, but also, the Sabres were actually unable to walk away anyways due to the low AAV. 

[Curt]

4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

If he gets even better and earns the 2 mil he will have proven he's worth signing longer term

What does he need to do to earn the $2M, in your opinion?

[LTS]

15 hours ago, shrader said:

You can bury PART of the contract in the AHL.  I forget the specific number, but let's just pretend it's the NHL minimum.  That is the amount that can be buried.  Any amount over that figure still counts against the cap.  So if a guy makes $2 million and the cutoff line is $600k, that player would still count as $1.4 million against the cap.

This only counts for one-way contracts though.  A two-way deal does not count against the cap if they're sent down.

Thanks.  (and to the others that chimed in).